Relationships Worth More Than Money Podcast
Conversations about relationships being valuable and worth more than money! its a heartwarming podcast that delves into the profound value of connections, friendships, and love that transcend the monetary realm. Hosted by Tweezy & a diverse range of guests, including athletes, artists, entrepreneurs, engineers and everyday people, each episode explores the immeasurable worth of relationships in our lives. Through compelling stories and thought-provoking discussions, the podcast inspires listeners to cherish the bonds they share with others, reminding us that the wealth of a meaningful relationship is far more precious than any currency. Tune in to "Relationships worth more than money" to discover the true treasure in life.
Relationships Worth More Than Money Podcast
From Marine Corps to Financial Dominatrix: Goddess Dealana's Journey
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What happens when a classically trained dancer from Philadelphia's performing arts scene becomes a Marine Corps journalist and eventually a professional dominatrix? Goddess Dealana's fascinating life journey breaks every conventional expectation while demonstrating the power of authentic self-expression.
Growing up in North Philly's Strawberry Mansion neighborhood gave Dealana a foundation in both artistic expression and street smarts. Her path through dance and theater training led unexpectedly to military service when a Marine recruiter's professional demeanor impressed her more than her Army recruiter's. Throughout her four active-duty years as a combat correspondent, she developed skills that would serve her well across multiple careers.
The conversation takes a compelling turn as Dealana openly discusses her transition into professional BDSM work. She specializes in financial domination, where submissive clients derive satisfaction from relinquishing control of their finances to a powerful woman. With remarkable candor, she explains how this role aligns with her naturally dominant personality while challenging the submissive conditioning she received in her religious upbringing as a Hebrew Israelite.
Between her body sculpting business "Body Thief" and her dominatrix work, Dealana has created a life uniquely her own. Her wisdom about the power of words to shape reality and the importance of staying true to yourself despite others' opinions offers universal value regardless of your life path. As she puts it: "You are the star of your own show - focus on developing your story arc. Don't worry about what other people think."
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All right, we back First episode for April. As everybody know, I'm Tweezy. Who do I have to? The left of me, right of me? It's crazy, you ain't going to say your name.
Speaker 2:Oh, I thought you said I thought you were going to introduce me. Yeah, I'm Goddess Delana on the other side. Tweet tweet tweezy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so we met. I don't even know, it's been like five years.
Speaker 2:Probably like four years ago.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I wanted to drop something off for you, for Kadeem, and that's when I found out that you were prior military.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:How did I drop off?
Speaker 2:The Semper Fit sweatsuit that I still be wearing sometimes. I really like it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Semper Fresh.
Speaker 2:Semper Fresh SF.
Speaker 1:They stay rocking some of the merch. How did you jump into the First off where you from?
Speaker 2:Like I jumped right out the Marine Corps at Simper Fit. My bad, that's Marine Corps.
Speaker 1:That's Marine Corps. It is Marine Corps. That's the gym version. You know what I mean. But yeah, so where you from.
Speaker 2:Originally I'm from Philadelphia, so not that far from where I live now. I'm still out by Quantico, which was my last duty station, but yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm from Philly. Okay, what was your upbringing? Like you know, coming up from Philly, what part of Philly?
Speaker 2:North Philly. In the beginning, like when I was a little girl up to seventh grade.
Speaker 2:Strawberry Mansion, where oh, let me turn my phone up where Kevin Hart is from, yeah, and you know Bill Cosby and stuff all from Strawberry Mansion. And then we moved out southwest 59th and Baltimore and I went to a performing arts high school shout out to Kappa. And uh, yeah, I had a decent upbringing. Um, originally my parents were married, then divorced. Our life did change a little bit with my mom becoming um because she was a stay-at-home mom and then she had to start working and things like that. So life did change but it was all good. I had a really good childhood, Very artistic, very supportive, very loved. Good childhood. I mean I grew up in the hood.
Speaker 1:She was cool too.
Speaker 2:I'm from 27th and York, like Dolphin and all that area, and it was all black and I really liked the way I grew up. All the businesses were black on too. So I did grow up seeing black excellence, so to speak, black entrepreneurship, and although we did live like in the hood, there was really family, it wasn't violent. I didn't grow up in a violent neighborhood. It was very familial. We had the candy lady on the block, we had block parties, like. Everybody was really close and I'm actually still close with a lot of my friends from elementary school.
Speaker 1:That's dope. So you went to the performing arts school. What was you doing? Was you acting? Was you playing any instruments?
Speaker 2:I was a dance and theater arts major. So, most of my classes were dance, but when you major in dance they make you take vocal lessons and acting. So my school day was like two periods of dance and then one period of a different art, like it could be the theater class or vocal lessons, but we only had those alternative ones like two or three times a week, but I danced every day, two periods a day.
Speaker 1:Okay, what were some things that inspired you to go to the performing arts school? Were you always a dancer? Were you always acting, doing theater around the house?
Speaker 2:yeah, I, my mom, like she was super supportive of me being in art and she worked really, really hard to pay all those high fees. Like I did go to Freedom Theater, which I think Freedom Theater ended up closing. I'm not sure, but Freedom Theater was huge for a lot of Philadelphians in their acting career, like, namely, erica Alexander. I think they just named the street after her off of Freedom Theater, like Broad Street, off of Freedom Theater, like Broad Street. Oh okay, yeah, like Freedom Theater was a big foundational block for my dancing career and aspirations. I started that in elementary school and then but yeah, I was always funny and my mom encouraged that it was a part of our family. Bonding we would have like talent shows and stuff at the barbecues, things like that, and yeah, I guess it was just part of our family being a comedian, being funny and doing impersonations. Off too, because you know, my mom would say when we were really small she would take us to wherever and, um, people would just give us free things. She was just saying you guys were just so cute, we would get free meals, free whatever, and so then she had me doing impersonations. Oh well, I'll tell you how it started.
Speaker 2:I was one of those um, ask question every minutes, little type of toddlers and I was curious about everything and my mom told me that some of the stuff I would ask she didn't know the answer to. Like she did not know. I would ask everything, from why is the sky blue to I mean everything. And so she said one day she just started saying, hey, you know why don't you memorize this? She's the one that kind of started me doing I would do Mae West impersonations.
Speaker 2:A lot of people don't know who Mae West is, but I am almost 50 years old, so Mae West was a thing when I was a little girl. So she had me start learning Mae West and I would do like hey, come up and send me some time type of thing. And it kind of started from there. My mom just distracted me from scientific questions that she didn't know the answer to to entertain in some other type of way, and so I think that kind of started it and the attention I got from the people I guess made me want to do it more. And then I wanted to be a professional actress and dancer and entertainer and I was going on auditions and stuff like that. So when I was real small, I was acting and I had done some small stuff like plays and like there was a show they filmed in Philly called Captain Kangaroo that was on their show, just like little things, until I was about 10, 11. And then I stopped professional work and then I just focused on school.
Speaker 1:Okay, just focus on school, okay, so with all of that acting, wanting to be like the class clown, or acting in front of your mom and your family, how did you end up to the Marine Corps?
Speaker 2:Oh, that was not planned. No-transcript, and, but for me my recruiter was just terrible. Oh, it's so sad to say that. No, sometimes you got to keep it a buck, I do so we're going to keep it 100.
Speaker 2:Especially when it comes to the military, yeah, like dude, his uniform would be dirty, like he smelled like cigarettes. He was late all the time, meeting me, even to the point where he was late. He took me to my ASVAB test late and he had to, like, convince the lady to let us in and take the test because he was late. The proctor, yeah, the test proctor. So, long story short, we did get in, I took the test and everything I did well. And one day I was outside and he was late and I was waiting for him because the place I was going to to meet him was at one of those recruit depots. So all the services was in there, yeah, and I happened to just be outside waiting and the Marine Corps recruiter walked up and he was like you waiting on your recruiter again, ain't you? And I was like yep, and he was like, well, listen, he's like, if you want to be a part of a more professional establishment, follow me. No, he said more professional organization, follow me. And that's all he said.
Speaker 2:And I did Like he professional organization, follow me, yeah, and that's all he said. And I did like he walked past, opened the door and I just pretty much about face and walk right behind him and then I was like well, I've taken that, I've taken the asvab already under the army, he said, but you haven't dipped in, he said. So he said I can get everything switched, uh, to the marine corps. That's how I ended up going in the marine corps. It wasn't that wasn't really purpose. It was about how the recruiters were and it just seemed like the best one.
Speaker 1:Dang, that's crazy. So the appearance and how he pretty much carried himself is the reason why you went to the Marine Corps. Dang, my dad was a Marine too, dang, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:My dad was a Marine too, though.
Speaker 1:So that made more sense. But you know, like most of the time, like when your parent is one branch, we always try to go like a different way. Or you know, like grandparents, like for me, my grandfather, my uncle, was in the Army on my dad's side and then on my grandma's side. You know, my grandfather was in the Air Force and the Navy. So like I'm like, well, I don't want to do one of them. I seen them in it. You know what I mean, but I haven't experienced it. So I was like you know what, let me try something different. You know what I mean. And I was kind of like the same thing, like what my recruiter told me what was your MOS?
Speaker 2:I was public affairs.
Speaker 1:Oh, you was PA.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my MOS doesn't even exist anymore. I was a combat correspondent, so it was like I was not.
Speaker 1:That was my B billet but I was not.
Speaker 2:That was my B-billet.
Speaker 2:But I was a writer, writer, photographer. So before they separated just what they said combat camera and PAO, they combined those two. But back in the day it was either you did the journalism and you may have, you know, taken accompanying art you know they always gave us a camera kit and you know we wrote or you were straight up like on the digital side and they called it a combat camera and those are the ones that made the videos and all that. So no, my accent actually stopped me. I did audition for AFN so they ended up making it my B-billet because of my Philly accent. They said it was too strong. Yeah, they said you needed a more neutral accent, but they had put New.
Speaker 1:Yorker up there.
Speaker 2:That's what I said. That's what I was, just like, whatever. Maybe now it's different, but this was 2004 or two and they just said they wanted a more neutral accent, right. That's crazy, but they still did make it my B-billet, like I said, it still was on my record, though I could do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I had a homie. I was saying, I think, an other episode ago that he was from New York and he was on the AFN network and I was in Iraq at 05, and I'm like yo, that's DeJaralimo, like what. We was just in boot camp together a year ago. So you know what I mean? That was crazy. So you did journalism, yeah. Yeah, I mean that's dope, like, if you think about it, you went from dance theater to journalism. Like those three alone, you know what I mean, are different, are different creative.
Speaker 1:You're just a creative all around yeah, I think I am and and then, how long did you do, uh, public affairs while you was in?
Speaker 2:the whole time I did public affairs um. I just did one. Well, you know how it is you get four active and four inactive. You get your real um separation. You're eight years later, but I only did four active. I did do my inactive reserve time actively, if you would say that, like I participated in all my ir activities. I did my um mol, like my marine online stuff. I took all my classes Like I did all the stuff I was supposed to do Because, honestly, I thought about coming back in Because I had got accepted to OCS. I was going to be a public affairs officer Because I had my degree already. My degree was in broadcast and so I did dance. I went to Temple University. I did dance. I was a diamond gem.
Speaker 2:It's still hard to get on that scene that Danny knows nothing to sneeze at Great accomplishment. However, I didn't major in dance because I would just be a hundred. We'd be in a buck on this podcast. I didn't have the confidence in myself. I thought that I would be a starving artist. I didn't see, I didn't know that you could make a lot of money dancing choreography. I knew you could do, but at that time I thought you need this connection or that, like I just didn't have the confidence in myself and I should have stayed with it, because some of my friends they still doing so well right now, like some of them dancing for, like Cirque du Soleil or, you know, the Eagles or the Sixers. Like it was a straight pipeline, like if you majored in dance and you did a diamond gym you was most likely going to get on the Eagles team or the um, you're going to get a chair position or a dance position somewhere.
Speaker 2:But at that time I couldn't see it and I knew what I could do, naturally, was God given talent, I could write, I could write and my mom had always told me if you write well, you'll always have a job. And so just the fear kind of led didn't major in journalism. I didn't major in theater like I had majored in broadcasting, telecommunications and mass media. I learned everything. I learned radio, I learned video, I learned, you know, back in the day we cut and splice reels, like before digital came out. Right, I was doing that, making projects, making music, like writing things, things like theater, like yo BTMM, I think, is the best major out there If you're not exactly sure what you want to do, but you know how to communicate and you want to learn that and you want to make good money. I took broadcast performance. I thought I wanted to be a news anchor, so that major when I say helped me in the rest of my life.
Speaker 2:That was the one, and it helped me with the Marine Corps because I already knew how to write.
Speaker 1:So before you joined the Marines, you went to Temple, so we got to the 26th. Yeah, we got to touch on that? Yeah, yeah, we got to touch on that because you went to a performing arts school, graduated, went to Temple, studied and got your degree in broadcasting right, Is it communications? What's the whole degree?
Speaker 2:It's the whole thing BCMM, Broadcast Telecommunications, Mass Media. So I also learned how people think and how to communicate, how advertising works.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you that's the best major ever now it all makes sense how like everything is is going into. You know, like what you do now you know, I mean because when I met you, um, you were you have a business in body sculpting, right.
Speaker 2:I still do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's talk about it. What's the name of the business and what you do?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I am a master esthetician. So after the Marine Corps, I used my gi bill to go to aesthetic school at the master aesthetic school because, yeah, I could have done it and got an advanced degree in, like, journalism or broadcast or communications, whatever to build off of my bachelor's, but I wanted to learn something with my hands. And so at the time I was struggling with really bad skin and I wanted to understand it more and I'm like, well, it would be a free education. I'm gonna do that because, um, in between that I had worked on cruise ships. Like I got a really very life experience.
Speaker 2:Um, after the Marine Corps, I worked on cruise ships, I worked on carnival and then after that I started selling cars, like, so it's a weird little transition there and the cars business got really slow and so I'm like, what else can I do? And that's when I said I'm going to use the GI Bill to do something tactile, something that don't depend on whatever. Like, people are always going to be concerned about their aesthetic, what they look like, and they're going to find the money for that. Like, because I've seen it in my life People, they may not have money for whatever, but they're going to have money for their lashes, or they're going to get money for their hair, or they'll start trying to do it themselves. But the point I'm making I made to myself is it's important to people how they look, how they come across, and so I want to learn how to do this, and that was what made me take the aesthetics course. And then one thing led to another, and I ended up opening my own body contouring business.
Speaker 1:So with that business, you said you're a master esthetician because you had, you know, things with your skin. I don't know if you can see mine, but you know what's some pointers you can give me, Because you know as men, you know we. How can I put it For me? I can't say for everybody. I know a lot of people's skin that look worse, but I think I have good skin. You know greater skin, however, you say it, but how do you maintain that, Like what's some things I can use or or some things I can do, or I can get from the store, or what you do when you, when I come to you?
Speaker 2:okay, that's. That's super easy. You do look like you have decent skin, especially like up here in your forehead. I could see um cleaning it, cleaning your body being hydrated with water um, not like juice and soda, just straight up spring water and um cleaning your skin at least once a day. I know everybody say two, but I know sometimes people's lifestyle, whatever it is, they can't do two of at least wash your face once a day. You want to? If you don't like to drink water, you can. What I tell people eat your water with water. Um fill foods like celery, cucumbers, watermelon, things like that like foods. They have a lot of water in them. And also, um. A great skincare line that I always recommend to people that's good for all skin types is called Simple, simple skincare. It's very affordable, it's rice-based, it's hypoallergenic and it's super easy to use. So I would say you could get Simple skincare, get the cleanser and get the moisturizer and and maybe the sunscreen and that's about it.
Speaker 1:Where can I get that at?
Speaker 2:Anywhere Rite Aid, cvs, anywhere that has a skincare section you should be able to find it. It's a UK-based brand, but it's distributed here, and it's been distributed here at least 10 years now.
Speaker 2:Okay, but the vision of my company. Yeah, just just go simple and the color is white and green or green. It's just green based white color packaging and my company name is Body Thief Body Thief Body Sculpting. It's a little homage to Anne Rice. I love vampires, I love, but that book isn't about a vampire, but I love Anne Rice and so when I was thinking of my business name and helping people shape their bodies non-invasive, and stuff like that I was like what is that? Like stealing fat, snatching fat? Oh, I'm gonna be the body thief like. And it just went from there. So the business is like burglary themed. It's like really cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a good play on words. Definitely a good play on words. How many years you been having body thief?
Speaker 2:Body thief was born 2019. Unfortunately, out of a divorce, but my second marriage didn't work out either, unfortunately, but it brought Body Thief into the world and I love my business Okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because when I came in there you was working on somebody. I forgot what I had to drop off, but it was something from Kadeem.
Speaker 2:The Semper Fresh, the sweatsuit.
Speaker 1:Oh it was, it was. It was a hoodie and a pants. Was it the crop top one? No, oh, no, no, it was the one with the stitching.
Speaker 2:It's really nice. It's such good quality too. I still wear that sweatsuit. It's really really nice.
Speaker 1:I had the blue one. I didn't have the other color, but I had the blue one.
Speaker 2:I got that black and gray. It was from Alejandra. I met him through her, his wife. She was coming to me, she had just had some. I was doing some post-op on her. Boom yeah, and that meeting, and everything. She and boom yeah, and then we end and everything and she's an amazing Marine too.
Speaker 1:She used to be a drill instructor. Yep, yep, both of them, both of them.
Speaker 2:Oh, I didn't know he was a drill instructor too. That's how they met. See A lot of them be meeting like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's how they met.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So it was just like when we met we just clicked and she was telling me about her husband and his business and how we could support each other and that he do photography too. We talked about that because I was thinking about having him shoot some stuff for me and all that. It was just everything. Just. I love my Marines. I love my Marine Corps friends. I didn't serve with them, but you know how it is.
Speaker 1:It's family. It's family, yeah, it's family. We always, I mean granted, you got your ones and twos, you be like, eh, but 98% of the time, hey, we like this. You good what you need. You know what I mean. So that's how it is, I love.
Speaker 2:I miss that, I miss having, I miss living on base. Like people love to shit on living on base, but that was my best time in the Marine Corps when I was living on base, Base housing.
Speaker 1:I was living on base housing. My last tour I was in Pendleton, 374, Parmesan Circle, and like I'm telling you, I'm like, oh, this ain't bad after all. I had a nice crib, too Nice crib, it was super nice my neighbors ain't bothering me Like it was nice.
Speaker 2:Everybody is cool school. Listen, I would trade that for the world. I used to have barbecues all the time. I loved being so close to work. My son was going to school on base. It was just so that little community. You ain't even hardly have to leave base if you ain't want to. All your friends were there.
Speaker 1:Everybody was there.
Speaker 2:That was the time and I was in that new base house in Quantico they had just built, so it was like with the garage and stuff.
Speaker 1:Like my house was like.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my house was so nice Like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I wouldn't trade those days for nothing in the world.
Speaker 1:Now you got the body sculpting. You got broadcasting mass media. You got Marine Corps. You said you was a car salesman at once. You was doing all type of stuff, right?
Speaker 2:I used to drive a cab For real Yup Right out here in Virginia. I used to drive a cab just for the summer. I never done it before, so I'm the type of person if I've never done something I want to try it. I'm going to do it, yo. I was making like $150 a day, though, like driving a cab is actually, you could make some bank driving a cab.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my grandfather used to do it Yellow cab back in Detroit. He the first Soulja Boy can't take this from him, but he the first cab driver to drive from Detroit to California in the cab. I promise you.
Speaker 2:Why did he do that?
Speaker 1:My grandpa because he didn't care. He always loved it. He had a fare. No, he didn't have a fare, he just drove, like he drove the cab. He used to drive trucks too when he got out. So he like drove the cab from Detroit to California. He used to drive it to Florida all the time, but that's where he from. But he drove it to California. I said ain't no way.
Speaker 2:Ain't no way we about to drive y'all, me and my homegirls, when we get to that other part of my life which we gonna get to, we're about to drive down to New Orleans. I haven't done a road trip since my 20.
Speaker 1:What kind of vehicle y'all riding in?
Speaker 2:first of all, A Honda CRV, but it's a brand new one, that's a bigger one?
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, yeah, I was about to say you need some type of room.
Speaker 2:You need some type of room 2024 or 2025. Either way, she said it's brand new. It's new, yeah. So yeah, it should be decent. It's just going to be three of us. It should be good. It's going to be good. Yeah, I'll be straight it's 17 hours, we'd be all right yeah, I drove.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's about right, because I drove from dallas to dc and I was like 18 hours well, I drove from philly to oklahoma like fort sill and that was 22 hours, sheesh and I'm driving. See them driving days. I loved them and I got the memories of me driving from Cali, from Detroit, to Cali, from Cali back to DC. Cool, I ain't doing that, no more.
Speaker 2:I know it just seemed like it was going to be a fun adventure so this is what leaves me back to what we were just talking about.
Speaker 1:So you got all of these things and your name. I know your name from something else, but now your name is Goddess Alana. So let's talk about this name. And why is it this name? Because everybody you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, everybody don't know.
Speaker 1:Everybody don't know.
Speaker 2:Like I'm not scared, like I've thought about it, like I've thought about starting a whole new social page and this and that, and I was like I don't care. Like once I told my dad about it. It was a wrap. I didn't care what nobody else thought. I told my mom, I told my dad, I told my son I don't care what anybody else thinks.
Speaker 1:What your dad say.
Speaker 2:Yo, my dad, think it's the funniest thing ever. My mom is the one. Yeah, my mom is the one. That's like she. I told her what I do. She say you do that. I say she look like this shut up. I just rest out laughing, that's all she said she said, she said hey my dad, yo, my dad.
Speaker 2:He is hilarious. He was all like my baby got slaves and they white. He was like I love that. He was like my baby got slaves and they white. He was like my baby got slayed. He was like anyway. He was like yeah, I love it. He was like what's his name? He'd be asking me about him and stuff because I give him names. He's like how much to do it. So I know your listeners probably like what's she talking about? So y'all, I'm a pro dominatrix. I specialize in financial domination, but I'm also a sadist, so I also conduct impact play sessions and impact means exactly what that is Impact, specifically trampling. I love trampling. I'm very petite, I'm like 110 pounds on a good day, so I can trample, especially if the person has a nice strong core, strong chest or whatever. I can even jump off of something and you know, onto them, but I like trampling. I like what's called CBT, which is cock and ball torture. Like I like kicking them in the balls and I like flogging.
Speaker 1:What's that?
Speaker 2:Flogging is when you're whipping somebody. Oh, okay Was that like a man. Yo ain't this cute. Shout out T-Mu with the phone cases, yeah it's a little man. And then it got a little cover for your phone too.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's crazy. It really is a phone case. Wow, so you said fogging, flogging.
Speaker 2:Flogging.
Speaker 1:Flogging.
Speaker 2:Okay, All right so caning is kind of good, like with the cane, like it's a bamboo cane. I haven't had many submissives like into that, but I did take a class like and I don't just do so willy-nilly, like I'm into this like for real, like, uh, I take classes, I have a mentor, I, I have two own subs, and owned just means that they only submit reports to me, they pay reparations, I finance I. My niche is Black. New World Order, financial supremacy, female supremacy, female-led everything, female non-relation Okay, okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So like I'm super new to all of this, like when I asked you a while ago, I'm like what? Like you do this, like what be going on? Like how do you find these people? Like it's like a whole nother world. You know what I'm saying, you know? Like for me, like I do music, it is another world, it's a whole nother world. It's like the black market. You know what I mean. It's a whole nother world. It's like the black market. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Only certain people know, but you know what's really. What I hate about it I guess I'll start that first is the stigma and like the fact that Visa or PayPal or one of them type of things would like shut my account down if they knew I was getting paid for BDSM sessions, because this is a part of BDSM and that part I don't like because it's hypocritical.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:These people that own these companies. They be indulging in BDSM trust and belief, because most of my clients are wealthy business owners Like oh, and I also specialize in something called tpe, which is total power exchange and um. But the fact that they would flag your account for something like that when all this other stuff is legal makes no sense. But that's neither here nor there, so there's special platforms that I get paid through. But how do these people find me? Just, you know regular marketing, the way I post things. I say the people that's in the lifestyle, like I used to be more overt, covert with it, but now I'm just like it's whatever.
Speaker 2:Yeah they know the terminology and stuff.
Speaker 1:How would you describe like the job description of Dominatrix? Who has never heard of it before?
Speaker 2:Okay Ooh, who has never heard of it before? It literally plays off of that word. So a dominant person, this could be the male or the female. So if you want to go terminology wise, it would be the dominant person and then the submissive person. But you also have people that go both ways, so they call them switches. I am not a switch. I don't submit and I don't put myself in a submissive position either. I think, if that makes sense, submissive positions either. I think if that makes sense.
Speaker 2:So I'm not the person that would want to be like tied up or deprived of any sensory things, or even like in my even before I, like I've always had a dominant personality, that is true, but but I still had conditioned, traditional conditioning. I still have a religion in my background too. I was a Hebrew, israelite, like speaking Hebrew, everything. So we're taught that the woman should be submissive to the man, in the sense of just letting him lead the relationship, leading everything. Like you have your input and stuff.
Speaker 2:Like I remember, like I used to be married to a minister, actually, but like the elder's wife at the temple I used to go to, she would give like women classes and training and she would just teach you like, yes, the man is the head, but we are the neck. We actually you know. So the difference is the head, but we are the neck, we actually you know. So the difference is, instead of like finessing a man, um, because a lot of times the women lead in the background anyway, because we more so be seeing through stuff and y'all be coming to us too, like, well, this and that, like anybody that's been married, I would say no, a lot of times the woman is behind the man. That's really giving them that, uh yeah, and the ability to go out and do what they do. I always say that's why men got the muscles, but we a lot of times can see everything and all the parts more Like. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you rationalize, women rationalize it and kind of see things better versus us going straight at things.
Speaker 2:A lot of times women do lead the relationship, we just lead in the at things. A lot of times women do lead the relationship, we just lead in the background and a lot of times it's because of the ego that had been instilled in men from patriarchy. But, realistically speaking, I'm like men usually defer to what we think when, especially when, they love and respect us, the women in their lives, they see our wisdom, they know we got it and I think so. When it comes to the female being the dom, men have a fantasy because of patriarchy and stuff, they want a woman to be dominant over them and lead them. But I do it for money.
Speaker 2:So, and in my personal relationships before you even ask about that, because a lot of people do ask they're like well, how are you in your personal relationship? Yeah, I don't prefer a submissive man to date. Right In the sense of I don't want somebody. I feel like there's a pushover. Being submissive don't mean Right In the sense of I don't want somebody I feel like is a pushover.
Speaker 2:Being submissive don't mean that you let somebody walk all over you and disrespect you. It just means that you defer to them as the leader and, I guess, the last voice of the decision is going to be made. Okay, but I like more dominant men, but not a man that claims to be alpha either, because I think that's BS, that's just that. Don't mean nothing Like I don't know what that is, that's just some type of posture, macho posture, and I don't deal with it. I think those people are insecure. So, but again, to explain to somebody that never heard of it, just literal definition of dominant and submissive is we play that out literally in what we call scenes. So these are scenes. A lot of times there are people that do this lifestyle and that's just how they live, which is the path I'm going on, the path I'm going on, but right now it's just pro-play. I do scenes with people and then the ones I own. It's an almost daily interaction.
Speaker 1:Right right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they have daily tasks that they need to do. I monitor everything and I control their life remotely because they don't the own submissives that I have. Don't live in Virginia.
Speaker 1:So I do everything through. So you controlling a submissive or a sub as you call it right, you controlling them remotely. That's crazy. What that's crazy. What do you think? The main distinctions between dominatrix and sex work?
Speaker 2:The main difference.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what's like the dominatrix service versus a sex worker.
Speaker 2:I'm still considered a sex worker, even though I don't have sex, like because it's still sexual for them, like, and I guess for me too. Like it is a sexual exchange on both parts. Like I do get turned on by being, by taking that much control and that much power over somebody, like literally just tell us about hey, I'm going out with my friends, send for drinks and they send within 60 seconds, yeah, that gets me off.
Speaker 2:Like it's a little bit of oh, you get that little bit of those little um vibration sensations so it was um, there's still a sexual thing to it, even though it doesn't involve their sex organs, it's still sex work. Um, the difference is I'm just not in a submissive position and I don't care about the physical arousal of the man. Like I don't care, like that's one thing. I say I don't care about that flesh between your legs, right Like. But for them, sending me money gets them off, giving me that control gets them off. The fear of not being in control is what turns them on. The fear, like, because I do chastity too, and chastity for the newbies or any people listening don't know what that is. Y'all heard of a chastity what they used to call it back then for women, where it was a literal key to unlock down to get to the vagina. I make the men wear Chastity Cage over their penis and I control the key. So, like the one I think you saw, like last week, I named him Asset467. He gave me the Asset467.
Speaker 1:You're like it's midnight yeah.
Speaker 2:I put him up there, you man it to. You call him it. You're no longer a man, You're just a cell phone Ask him 467?. You're my plaything, wow. So yeah, I said 467. He had a lockbox but he sent me the app and I changed the master password so he has the physical key. But I made him put the key into that strong box and I changed the password so he couldn't get into it and I made him sleep with the box on the pillow next to him. Just the first.
Speaker 1:That's crazy.
Speaker 2:And the fear and the understanding that you don't control it. I do.
Speaker 1:So how did you get started in this career path? Because you know what I'm saying. Like you weren't, like I said, acting theater, dance, dance, tempo what was the name of the dance group you was a part of? In tempo, freedom theater Broadcasting. Like how did you just jump Marine Corps, then Body Thief and then let's go this way, like how did that happen? Right?
Speaker 2:Like I ain't even going to lie Money at first. First it was just money. First it literally was one of my friends, maureen. She is what's called a sensual top and she does sensory stuff. So she's a dom, but she uses sensuality topping her clients. I use humiliation and degradation. You know, for my clients we have two different type of clients.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:But she was the one who told me you should be a dom, like professionally. And I'm just like, because I still have that religious upbringing. So I'm like, no, I'm not doing nothing like that. I'm still fighting against my natural nature of dominance, trying to make to bring that all down so I could be a good girl, a good woman, so I could be putting the inside of God out how I thought it used to be. And so for a few years her and this other guy went to the Marine Corps with, actually, a boyfriend of mine. He's a top and I'm just like the Marines be diamond, like what is going on, you know. And they said you should look up Mistress Marley. And Mistress Marley is a financial dominatrix, but she's like a famous one. She'd been all over the internet, news, everything.
Speaker 2:And I was like maybe I should try this. And once I looked up mistress marley's stuff and I saw that you could just get money just for being a powerful woman. A man would just give you money just because you're he thinks you're above him. I was just like, right, let me try this because I had been a sugar baby before by accident. But it happened Like I've been men giving me money and stuff for nothing in return Been like for a long time. But I didn't know that was a type of man. I didn't even know that was a financial submissive. So I've had financial submissives in my past. I just didn't know that's what they were because I didn't feel like I was the one making them do it. They wanted to do it so yeah. So it was a long like.
Speaker 2:It was like bits and pieces through the years and then finally I was like I needed some fast cash and I said let me try this financial dominatrix thing. And I signed up for Mistress Marley's Patreon on the $5 level and then I said let me just do the $20. And it just opened up all the videos and stuff and I started watching and I was like I could do this and I just started small One, you know set up my Twitter. Then I set up a night it's called Night Flirt and I was just doing phone stuff, dialing over the phone, just testing myself out, and I was afraid at first I didn't even want to. I was just like why would a guy give me money? Like I couldn't even equate that. That was a sexual arousal, like giving money gets you off.
Speaker 2:And at first I kept trying to find a reason. Every sub I would talk to I would be like you why do you send? And then they all had kind of the same answer oh, it makes me hard, or I just like the thrill of it feels like I'm gambling, giving a stranger my money. You know the fear of not being in control of my own stuff that I work so hard for, like, and I know it seems weird that somebody will want that, but some of these men are, like, really really high positions and they never get to express submission or express vulnerability or express anything other than leadership. And it's hard, like I'm this, this, this, and all they want to do is get down on the floor and kiss your feet or something you know. So we let them do it, I let them do it, sisters, and all they want to do is get down on the floor and kiss your feet or something, or you know so we let them do it.
Speaker 2:I let them do it all right and it's sad too, because sometimes you talk to the men and they are married or they're in a relationship but they can't express what they want to be. And then the ones who have, they said their wife or the girlfriend not interested in it, they don't want to be the leader in their relationship. Like they want me to tell them I don't want to be the leader. Or I've had a submissive guy. He was in UK. He told me like I feel like an imposter, like I should have never gotten married, like I don't want to be the leader, I would rather be the one taking the directions.
Speaker 1:Wow, wow. So with that, I know you said that you know you've been. When you first started, you were battling like you know your religion and everything, and you said what religion you were was a Hebrew, israelite, or was it another? So how do you go on a daily basis now Like did you forget about it, or no, no, definitely not that I just have a better understanding of it.
Speaker 2:Like I truly believe that we were given free will Like I really really do. Like I truly believe that we were given free will Like I really really do. I don't think there's any consequences outside of the consequence we create for ourselves on this plane. I don't think I'm sinning against God. I don't any of that. I don't think that there's this entity that's sitting up judging us in the sense of how we're taught in religion. I just don't believe any of that anymore.
Speaker 2:I have a different interpretation of scripture. I'm really versed in scripture, like I said, being a minister's wife, learning because back when I was in college and all that kind of stuff, I hated people telling me what was. So I was like I'm going to learn Hebrew, so I'm going to read the old stuff on my own. You know type of thing I'm going to interpretate. You're telling me I can't say what God's name is. Let me find out what you'd hate, what hate means, like how I'm going to say it? Because I'm going to say the name of God, like I'm just one of those people, and so, as I started learning, I'm like you know what we actually have the power to create whatever, and whatever consequences will come from our own actions.
Speaker 2:It's not something that quote-unquote god did. All god gave us the ability to do is create, and any sin we commit is against ourselves. So I just feel like, um, the stuff in the bible is true, but I believe that religion was just meant to restrain and control people. So I'm out of that. Yeah, it took a long time, though I feel like I had religious PTSD. I even had a clubhouse weekly talk about it. Yeah, religious PTSD, yeah, but that's how I deal with it. I just look at it different. I still believe in God, I still believe that there is a governing spirit, but I just don't believe it the same way that I was first taught.
Speaker 1:Okay, what is the most unusual request you ever received?
Speaker 2:The most unusual for me and I've only been pro-diamond for almost two years, it'll be two years this summer is somebody requested to eat my dookie. Like, literally like want to eat it. Like there was a guy in Canada. It like, all right, it was a guy in canada. He was just like how much would I have to pay you for you to let me eat your? And I was just like I don't know if you could pay me enough because I'm scared to do that. Like what if you get a disease or something? Like you're not supposed to be eating people's poop, you know like.
Speaker 2:But then I started researching about it. There's women out there that do it. They advertise having a clean diet, like all type of stuff you can. They charge you more if they eat very clean. Um, you can choose what type of dookie you want to be getting. Like it's crazy. Uh, that's one of my hard limits. It's called scat. I'm not saying I would never do it, because I never want to say what I won't do in life, but at this moment in time that is a hard limit for me. I just don't even want to smell my own poop, let alone imagine somebody eating it. It makes me feel like I'm going to throw up. I don't think I could do that. I know people who do do it and I don't judge them for it, like just you, but that's the weirdest one that I've had, okay what um?
Speaker 2:girl said she had a guy want to do a custom video of him. Imagine her putting her toes in his eyeballs. But that wasn't a request from me. But that's one of the weirdest ones I've ever heard.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow. So with all of this, I don't think. I'm going to do that one.
Speaker 2:That's just weird.
Speaker 1:I mean, I'm learning as you speak because I've known nothing about it. But my question to you is with you being just 110 pounds, like you don't never feel like scared or in fear for your life, like nobody, like stalking you or anything like that.
Speaker 2:No, and people have said that this is my response to that always is one. This is a small world, like bdsm is a very small world and we always ask for references. One if a sub wants to have an in-person session, you get references. If they've never session in person before, um, and I do this, whether they session in person before or not, but I always get their id, I always get their linkedin um and referrals. But, like I said, if they're new and they never session with nobody, then you know you can't get a referral. But you do your little background check, like a lot of doms we have, like we got the little app you can background check people phone number and you can background check their name. But a lot of it is we talk amongst each other and um. The other thing is you can have security, like maybe a friend come with you, something like that. Uh, if you session at a professional dungeon, that's good because there's security there too and there's cameras.
Speaker 2:But on the mental level, what I like to tell people is, honestly, bdsm is so much safer than vanilla, a bdsm guy who identifies as submissive. You're gonna be safer because sexual assault, violence, all that stuff. What is that all about power dynamic, power play. They just try and take your power, like scientists have already sold us, psychologists sold us rape and all that stuff is about taking power. So a submissive man has already determined who has the power and what the power dynamic is. So I don't really have that fear that he gonna try to dominate me or try to take my power, because it's already been established and discussed who's in control.
Speaker 2:Now, it could be they could be lying. There are men who are just fetishes, who ain't really subs, but they have that fantasy of being dominated by a powerful woman. But again, that's why you gotta do your background checks and stuff and um, but yeah, I guess at the end of the day, with anything there's a risk, but I feel like, because of the mental power structure that's already established, it's less risk of violence against me in that situation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Now, how do you plan on doing this for the rest of your life? Or like is this your like career and still have, you know, yeah, other business?
Speaker 2:so what I see for myself is growing in this dynamic. I do want to experiment with a lifestyle part of it. Like I, there's a woman that I watch and I follow. I've met two, because she is called the Madame Caramel. They call her the Nubian matriarch because she's kind of. She's been around a really long time and she throws every year what's called the Femme Dame Ball in London. I did attend last year, I may go this year, I'm not sure, but anyway she has a living servant and her husband is submissive and I like to watch everything. It's just like, like she's like this queen, you know, and they are just at her beck and call and I'm just like, could I live?
Speaker 1:like that, because I have a living servant.
Speaker 2:I want to try that. So I see myself doing that Now. Would it be for the rest of my life? I don't know, but at this point I want to have a living sub, like a slave that is catering to my whims and I'm actually working on that.
Speaker 2:I have one of my subs. Yeah, I'm about to make him join the Marine Corps. Actually, we're talking about that. Oh, yeah, for the next level, like I'm going to be, his checks when he joined the military is going to be going into my bank account and I will give him a preloaded debit card for his weekly expenses. But no, but the checks will be deposited into my account. Like that is my ultimate, like I feel like if I can get a man to join the military and give me all his stuff, hey, I'm like, I'm the down.
Speaker 1:Officer or enlisted.
Speaker 2:He only got his high school diploma, so he's going to be enlisted? Yeah, but it would be nice to get me a college graduate to go to OCS. Yeah, that'd be even better, but it's okay, because I'm going to be controlling. He's going to be going up the ranks. I'm going to be pulling the whole puppet string the whole time.
Speaker 1:Alright, alright, that's wild, that is wild.
Speaker 2:Especially with this administration going all racist. I already talked to him. I was like this is going to happen. I said if it keep up like the way it is against women and people of color and black people, you going to be their voice, I said, because you going to keep going up through the ranks? I said, but people ain't going to know that you actually an ally. He was like, yes, goddess, we'll do the plan. Look, he's working out. I'm telling you, the plan is already going. He started his workout regimen. I made him quit vaping, everything, ah, yup. And he's so happy he's like I have a plan now and now. So happy he's like I have a plan now and now. It's to the point where he worshiping me. He is yeah, so I'm really excited to see how that's gonna turn out. Like I got listen 20 years. I'm locking down 20 years or so, I don't know.
Speaker 1:We'll see that's crazy um for the people. Before we get out of here, I always do this thing called gym class g-e-m. Like what is a gym that you can give to the women or the men? Um, out there, that's uh looking to do some dominatrix or whatever, any, any type of gym you.
Speaker 2:You know what this is a gym. Be mindful of your words. Like, truly, truly. Be mindful of your words. In the scripture it say in the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God. That is all you really need to know as far as to get you where you want to be in your life. Watch what you say, watch what you give power to, and your words really are like um, they're like tools that build your life out. So be mindful of what you send it out there. It's going to come back to you. Trust and believe. That's one gem, and the other thing is stay true to you For real.
Speaker 2:It sounds so cliche, but so many decisions we tend to make is based on what we think other people going to think about us or what effect it will have on other people. You are the star of your own show and the people around you are the players in your show. They're the actors in the show, but you're the main character. So focus on developing your story arc. Don't worry about the other people and what they think. They don't live your life. The reason I say that is because when I went to join the Marine Corps to other people and what they think. They don't live your life Right.
Speaker 2:The reason I say that is because when I went to join the Marine Corps, everybody, everybody was like don't do it, don't do it. When I went to leave the Marine Corps, everybody said don't get out, you shouldn't get out. And that hit me right there. In that moment I was like these are the same people that told me not to join. I was like you know what? From that point on, I was like all decisions I make, I ain't asking nobody. I'll just do what I think I should do and I feel like everybody should. Can't nobody live your life for you. So stay true to yourself, do what you want to do and try your best not to worry about what other people are going to think about it.
Speaker 1:So be mindful of your word and stay true to you.
Speaker 2:You won't be happier.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's like, because even with me, like with the podcast, I was just like you know what I mean Relationships worth more than money, like it's more than just money. It's just you know, how did you, what relationship you build to get to where you're at right now? And that's why I like interviewing all different types of people, because it's everybody out there, it's not just one set person or one set job or anything that you know that interests people, which I'm sure this will give a few people an eye opener. You know what I mean, because I mean you telling me this like crazy. So if it's this small, you know what I mean you start looking at what's going on in the world right now.
Speaker 1:Looking at what's going on in the world right now and it's pretty much people out there that does dom and fem and sub and those type of activities, but it's dope. I mean, if you know everybody, I don't judge nobody. I just want to know, like, dive into, like, what you got going on, you know, and what makes you want to do this and the reason why you do it. So, as always, I appreciate you for coming on to the pod. I know we've been trying to set this up for a minute.
Speaker 2:I know.
Speaker 1:It's been a minute, but yeah, I've been trying to get off social media.
Speaker 2:That's why a minute I've been trying to get off social media. That's why I don't be on there like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I hit you and you hit back every now and then.
Speaker 2:You should definitely get that book Careless People. I just ordered it. I can't wait to read it.
Speaker 1:But the last thing I wanted to say too.
Speaker 2:Oh, I don't remember the name of the lady, but I posted it. She used to work at Facebook. She was the one that was testifying at Congress about them.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I don't know her name, but I know who you're talking about.
Speaker 2:Carolyn, something I think it might be, but I'm not sure. Well, it's hyphenated last name, but in any event the name of the book is Careless People and last name, but in any event the name of the book is careless people. And um, that just solidified, like just the excerpt of the book solidify. I gotta get off of social media. They have 5 000 data points on each person, on each person that has an account, and they look. Anyway, you'll have to see. But the last thing I want to say is I wrote a book and I'm excited about it. It's a vampire book and it's called Anella's Tarot Anella's.
Speaker 1:Tarot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm writing book two right now, so neither one of them are published yet, but they will be, so I just wanted to throw that out there too.
Speaker 1:Make sure you do an audio book too, do an audio version. Oh, okay, yeah do an audio version.
Speaker 2:I will. I can narrate it myself, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can record you. I'll have to come through.
Speaker 2:And you're in Maryland, right, Yep yep, Not too far from DC.
Speaker 1:See, I'm going to come through and you're in Maryland right?
Speaker 2:Yep Not too far from DC. See, I'm going to come through, all right.
Speaker 1:Well, I appreciate it like that we gone.
