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Baltimore Roots and the Gospel Beats of the Fisher Girls
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After navigating the highs and lows of life, Alma and her sister Raquel, known as the Fisher Girls, found their voices through gospel music. Their journey, shaped by a deep-seated faith and a rich musical heritage, is one of resilience and inspiration. From their early days in elementary school choirs to their professional careers, they share how the Apostolic Church and the loss of their mother became pivotal in reigniting their passion for music. Join us as they open up about their creative process, drawing from personal experiences and a love for poetry that binds them as both siblings and artists.
Discover the intricate dance of songwriting and collaboration, where humility and authenticity are key. Alma and Raquel reflect on their upbringing in Baltimore and the lessons learned at Morgan State, where Raquel honed her musical and theatrical talents. We also discovered how Alma became a published author after attending the University of Baltimore. They share what it means to create music that resonates with modern audiences while holding true to the gospel message. From church performances to theater stages, the Fisher Girls discuss their approach to crafting songs that not only captivate but also connect on a spiritual level.
The Fisher Girls also offer a candid glimpse into the world of independent gospel music, emphasizing the importance of maintaining a small, dedicated team and the role of faith in overcoming industry challenges. They touch on the wisdom found in life's seasons and the significance of authenticity in artistic expression. As they prepare for upcoming performances and continue to inspire through both music and writing, Alma and Raquel invite listeners to join them on this journey of perseverance and creativity, offering a heartfelt connection to their story and their newest release, "I Can Go Home.
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All right, what's today, monday?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Finally here.
Speaker 2:I know You're right.
Speaker 1:The weather just respect. Yeah, it was when you said it was hell and I'm like what?
Speaker 2:And we were on our way to you. It was like what in the world? It just started hailing.
Speaker 1:Out of nowhere. Yeah, what kind of like, what size of the hell I don't know it.
Speaker 3:It just started coming down and then it started coming out more hard. I was like I don't know. I don't know what you're concerned about.
Speaker 1:Yeah, y'all are North too, so a lot of times y'all going to get a lot more than what we get down here, but anyways we back at Relationships Worth More Than Money podcast. I am Tweezy. Who do I have to the right of me, you lovely ladies? I am Raquel, raquel, and.
Speaker 2:We are the Fisher Girls.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, let's get a little closer.
Speaker 3:Okay, sorry.
Speaker 1:So I know you through my brother Esquire, y'all say Terrence.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But when I heard y'all you know, create the song that y'all had together and he produced it, I'm like man. I got to get to know these ladies, who are these beautiful women, and so I always kept in like contact, like you know, following y'all in seeing what y'all had going on. Just for a brief, like, just give us a background of who y'all are, the Fisher girls, but y'all sisters together, everything Just go ahead. Give me the rundown.
Speaker 3:All right. So yeah, so I started in elementary school. We both started in elementary school, yeah. And I believe when I was like eight I received the water, baptism and spirit baptism, the Holy Ghost, and with Apostolic Church, you don't participate, like in things with like singing on a choir and stuff like that until you get the Holy Ghost. And with Apostolic Church, you don't participate like in things with like singing on a choir and stuff like that until you get the Holy Ghost and stuff. So I started there also.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:And yeah, so we've been singing since we were children and professionally since 2019.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah so school choir first, and then after high school, we were like we don't want to do um, we were singing so much as kids yeah we didn't want to sing in high school. Like god started to um handle right and in 2015 we lost our mom.
Speaker 1:So that's how it um.
Speaker 2:God started blessing us and then we didn't start professionally in 2019 so singing?
Speaker 1:singing is it like a generational thing, like it's always been, like it runs in the family, or like or do y'all just the first ones from the family that started singing?
Speaker 2:Well, actually it's on our father's side, our dad and our uncles, yeah.
Speaker 3:So our father and our uncles not sure, Um, if it's further back than that, definitely our dad. We know we get from our dad's side.
Speaker 2:They said it would never matter how our grandmother could sing, and some of our cousins could sing it's on our father's side.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Alright.
Speaker 1:So in 2015 you said you guys lost your mom.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And that's when y'all took it professional well, god, I could write songs when I was a kid, like right, like 10, maybe, yeah, like 10, 9 or 10, yeah, but um, I stopped writing it. So when we lost our mother, god started to, you know, instruct me to write again. And then god, um, yes, so I um, before my mom passed.
Speaker 3:I would get like little glimpse of like you know, instruct me to write again. And then God dealt with Elmer. Yes, so before my mom passed I would get like little glimpse of like witty things. I would see that sometimes, but I didn't fully know what it was. But when she passed, that's when the gift of writing rose up and I started writing poetry. And I didn't know. And the way that I learned was I wrote something. My instructor in college, she told me to write something mimicking Oscar Wilde. So I just thought I was mimicking him and she was like this is really. You know, this is great. Have you heard of this artist? And I'm like, oh. So I didn't know, it was a gift. But then that encouraged me to write. And then I wrote some books of poetry after that.
Speaker 1:And that was my next question too far, what was y'all like writing process, like how did that? Because you said you started at a young age, like even me. Um, I look back at me like trying to write, rewrite raps and stuff like that and trying to rewrite like r&b songs, like the old ushers and stuff, and to me I'm like man, how do how do you do it? And but is it from poetry? Does poetry help?
Speaker 3:Well, some people say it starts as poetry. And me writing poetry first. I guess that's how I write. I write from poetry. I write in rhythm a lot of the time. Yeah, I write in rhythm.
Speaker 2:So for me when I was a child, it was really easy, but because I took it for granted when god told me to start writing again in 2015, I didn't. I wasn't obedient to 2016, like I remember the month, january, like beginning of the year I started writing. He made me work for it. So I had to really relearn how to write songs like well, attention is my first song god bless us to release, but it's such a wordy song yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So like the other songs, they're detailed but it's not as wordy. So I had to relearn how to write songs, but when I was a child I could just it's like that, noun again.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But God, I had to like earn it.
Speaker 1:Now, you ladies are from Baltimore, right.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Did y'all go to school in Baltimore County or Baltimore City?
Speaker 3:We're from the city.
Speaker 1:So we went to school in the city.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right, I went to Morgan. It was the greatest grant Then.
Speaker 1:I had to stop. Did you study at Morgan?
Speaker 2:Music. Did you and I also did a musical theater. I played Cele in.
Speaker 1:Fella Purple.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was great and I did a couple of leads in the choir, so it was a really great experience.
Speaker 1:That's dope, that's dope. So you went to Morgan and the music just stayed with you and you just kept going, kept going. Talk to me about the upbringing, how you guys was brought up in Baltimore.
Speaker 2:Because I'm from Detroit.
Speaker 1:So, like I said, you, know Baltimore reminds me of back home. It's like the west side of Detroit or the east side, depending on what part you're in.
Speaker 3:We were born and raised in the city. But our mother, she didn't play with us, she kept us in the house.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:So we lived. We actually lived in the middle of the projects, but we were in the house. And she didn't play with us. She really protected us. So it was like we were in that environment, but we weren't in it. So Raquel and I, we were very sheltered but we hated it at the time. But then we realized later that it was actually good for us what part of Baltimore East west.
Speaker 2:East.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:But end up, you know, valuing it. We came growing up. Oh okay, I'm glad this way we wasn't outside as children, like we couldn't do a whole lot, like we used to cry. We wanted to go outside and stuff and I was like my why being protective of us, but as children we hated it Do y'all have any more siblings? Yeah.
Speaker 1:How many more?
Speaker 2:We have more. One more we lost two, we have them.
Speaker 1:Thank you. So, you got? Is it brother A brother? Yeah, Older, younger.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Our brother Dwayne Fisher. We love him, thank God for him.
Speaker 1:Does he sing too?
Speaker 2:No, he can write. His children can sing. Some of them can play instruments and sing, and I think most of them can write Either. They have some type of thing.
Speaker 1:Some type of skill, Something in that area in that realm.
Speaker 1:That's dope. I think I feel like when you are in that realm of music, theater, band, what else, acting, you know, it's all like a step in building block to where you're trying to go and it's just a great scene just to see it. When you come from a kid and it's like me for playing in a band, and then it's like now I'm a producer, now I'm an engineer, you know what I mean, but I, I let it, I let it go, just like you said, like you know, high school came I didn't want to be a bangy, you know. So it was like no, I would just want to play sport.
Speaker 1:But I regret that because I would have learned so many more instruments because I was was a drummer, you know, I knew my rudiments, but it was like when I talked to S, I'm like S, how you do this, how you do that, and he was like man, I kind of like trained myself. I don't even know how to play the piano for real, for real, but he trained himself. And when we collab on a lot of our beats, I always like, hey, man, man, play the lead on this play, this play that I like the way, cause it's his feel, and what he hears is like our ears are so gifted yeah, that's that's a gift.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean when I look at that. It's like man like you can create music like that and I'm just like this is crazy. But for acting, you know, I think to me theater is kind of like the you have to. You should do theater before you become like a full-fledged actor. You know how some people you know what I'm saying. Some people just be actors.
Speaker 2:I don't think you should.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you, just you don't know nothing about the theater of it, and I went to performing arts school, oh good.
Speaker 3:And we used to do the.
Speaker 1:Wiz a lot Every year. Sometimes we'll be the musical. We were the musical for most of it and I was like man, I want to act. I want to do this Because my boy, big John, shout out to him. He was like the lion.
Speaker 2:Curse the lion, or whatever, so it was like you know, all my friends was the.
Speaker 1:You know the lead characters or whatever. But yeah, theater, music, anything of that art form I feel like, is super dope. Now you ladies just released a single on valentine's day. Yes, right, yeah. What was the name of that single?
Speaker 2:I can go home I can go home.
Speaker 1:Did you both write it, or? Yeah so how does, how does that process works with, like you know, siblings writing for the you know writing for the songs. Y'all write all your'all songs together, or will anybody take a?
Speaker 2:lead Well now we do, Like the ideas can come to her first, depending, and then I'll add to it, or the idea can come to me, Then she'll add to it, Like I Can Go Home. We heard a track, Like a sample track or something, and God only gave me the hook, so I started singing I can go home, I can go. I started singing it and then my niece Aaliyah was like wait, you just came up with that. And I was like but God only gave me the hook.
Speaker 1:But, then, me and Alma, when we went home, we came up with the verse Do you feel creating the hook or the chorus first helps you more than creating a verse, or vice versa?
Speaker 2:It depends. It depends because before I used to I used to then write the hook first before I used to write the verse first. So I guess, whatever God is leading me, but I do find I do like when the hook is um, the foundation of the hook is there, you can write around it, you can build from the hook. So I do like that part.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Um you can build from the hook. So I do like that part and also trying to discover what the hook should be. Because, full Attention, I was writing my thoughts. I just was writing how I was feeling and it was pages. And I remember telling Alma and my older sister, christina, who we lost during the time. I was saying I don't know what to call it and Tina was so calm. I'm like girl, she was just like Tina's very funny. And I was like girl, she was just like Tina's very funny. And I was like, well, you know, you'll figure it out. But then I was reading it and then I was like, oh, full attention.
Speaker 1:Is that the one y'all did with Esquire, with Tarrant?
Speaker 3:No, that's on our EP for Junes that you hear in the Valley. Full attention was on the EP, the one with. Tarrant narrow way. We did that one later.
Speaker 1:But narrow way was the one with Terrence and what does that mean?
Speaker 2:narrow way my bad, you know y'all got, y'all bought some.
Speaker 1:I know that was you that time? I'm like who narrow way?
Speaker 1:no narrow so the process, y'all take turns and sometimes you come up with it, and then sometimes you come up with it, and then sometimes you come up with the hook, like you know. But me personally I think the hook is like what it is, what leads the song, but it helps you write around it and that's the thing. So me, I can't just go out and just write a song. I just when I'm riding, sometimes I'm listening to my beats or I'm listening to Esquire or my boy Swim somebody's beats I can. It's coming in my head Like I can hear certain things, but it's not coming full. So then sometimes I might just record it.
Speaker 2:Me too. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:I might just record the parts that I hear and then I'd be like yo, what you think about this, or even go in there and just lay it down and see what I can get from it. But I think that's great to have not only a sibling doing it with you, but it's another creative you know what. I mean that can unlock something else from you. How does that work? Sister-wise, Y'all get into it a lot.
Speaker 2:Not as far as songs actually, though Of course siblings argue yeah, who the oldest? I don't know Only a year and some months. We're very close names.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But as far as songs, I feel like we know what part we play, uh-huh, and that makes sense and we can write independently, like I'm going to write, and then I'll write, and then we'll come together and we will decide which makes sense. Yeah, you know, we're not like oh, thank God, we're never like that. Like oh, no, my part needed to be in here.
Speaker 3:No, no, no.
Speaker 2:It's actually whatever is best for the song. We're not like oh, it has to be like this, or I'm writing this. Like oh, it has to be like this, or I'm writing this. No, we really don't care, it's just whatever. Whoever verse is best, it or fits the rhythm of the song, or we take out and it's just yeah, but like my sister's funny and it's like our creative juices get the flow and more.
Speaker 3:You know, we bounce off each other and, um, yeah, like with this, this last song, it was just like she said something, I said something, I said something, she said song. It was just like she said something, I said something, I said something, she said something. It was just going together and I'm like, oh my gosh, and you know it, just it really worked out and our whole idea was just really to connect with people.
Speaker 3:You know, to let people know that they can go home. They can go, you know, they turn away from Christ, they can go to Christ, you know. So that's the goal. So it's not about it wasn't about like what I think is best, what she think, you know, it's about the ultimate goal.
Speaker 2:I'm glad it's actually now that you said that. I'm glad it's actually never like that. Like. We're never like. Alma wrote a song and I as singers, I mean you're gifted. You can tell when a song is original if you hear somebody sing it Right. So it sounded good and I walked in the hall and I said that sounds good, you wrote it and she wrote it. So then I end up writing the hook.
Speaker 3:What was it what?
Speaker 1:song was it.
Speaker 3:Well, she wrote the, she wrote a, she wrote a verse, I wrote the hook. But see, the hooks used to come to me first. So, when you were sitting around, like that's how they used to come to me. But now it's both ways. So you know I can write verses, but at first it was just I want to get a hook, and then we would build from there, but you would write verses.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because verses used to come, hooks come too. But I can, god bless me, I can do the hook or I can write the hook and then I'll. I'll look at the hook and I'll think about the hook and I'll write the verses around the hook yes so it's fun, it's fun, but I forget which one that was.
Speaker 3:I think it was baby don't you, yes, and she wrote the second verse and you add it to the hook, I think yeah, it was, don't you. And baby, baby, yep Yep yep, yep, yep, Don't you and let you go.
Speaker 1:So how does? Did y'all always start writing gospel, or was it like R&B? Did y'all ever dive into R&B or anything? It just always been gospel. Okay, I'm hey. I'm just asking because you know, sometimes, like some people don't come from you know what I? Mean, I'm learning too, because you know like I just got baptized last October.
Speaker 2:Oh, congratulations.
Speaker 1:Yeah, thank you. And like I go, like I went to church yesterday at First Baptist of Glen Arden and like the production that I always see, like it's every every week it's somebody different, so this week it was the kids Remix. We call it remix so on. Sundays, all the kids do everything. They, be they the ushers, they everything oh, did you call it the ushers, the ushers they're not ushers, the ushers.
Speaker 1:Okay, so you know, even like the announcements, all the kids do everything. That's right, yeah, so the choir changing up stuff yeah, is it like the youth Sunday? Yeah, like the youth Sunday, that's right. Yeah, we just call it remix Sunday. Yeah, remix Sunday. So like every Sunday is something different. Like next week might be young adults, the week after that might be men's.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:So it keeps it fresh Seeing that do you all perform at different churches, like in the area, because I know y'all said y'all was going to Atlanta.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we actually just performed at.
Speaker 3:Hope Center.
Speaker 2:Yeah, on Valentine's Day, the same day we released, I Can Go Home.
Speaker 1:And did y'all sing it there?
Speaker 2:Yes, we only did two. We did full attention because we wanted to gear you know, have a gear to valentine's day, so full attention is about, you know, being distracted with the cares of the world and around the wrong people. Now, god, we're dedicating our lives back to god. So here's our full attention and I could go home. It's just just like, you know, a safety net in God. So we didn't want to, even though it was still church, we didn't want to be like too, you know.
Speaker 1:Churchy. Yeah, yeah, I know what you mean because I like growing up as a kid Second Evergreen Missionary Baptist Church. My mom used to always have us go and I'm like man, it's churchy churchy.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean it's pubes.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean? It's old school. So I'm just you know what I'm saying, and it's funny because I start singing those songs in my head or just being silly, like I'm always am. I'm just singing those old school songs, but I get it. And I'm just singing those old school songs, but I get it. Nowadays, you know, it's good to have both, yeah you need variety, and that's what we love.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know it's both. Yeah, it's good to have both because you know the youth. I feel like they can't relate to those older songs. I mean they can.
Speaker 2:Because some of them songs are so oily, you can sing them today and you still feel the presence of God. So they're still needed, but we need to have a balance.
Speaker 1:Yeah, have a balance. How do y'all feel about that? When y'all come into y'all creative minds to create an album or an EP, do y'all feel like y'all want to do, like let's mix it up, do churchy, or what do y'all consider yourself as far as gospel? Because you know so many genres, you know what I mean. What genre would y'all put yourself?
Speaker 3:I'll call myself a gumbo, because we must be like, I guess, contemporary, because it's not like we do have like a brain. You know, this song is definitely different from other songs.
Speaker 2:It's more CCM.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 2:And our other songs are jazzy or storytelling, so like we're versatile, Okay, okay.
Speaker 1:Do y'all want to work or do y'all work with other artists? Gospel artists.
Speaker 2:We some, it depends. We want to be compatible. It's not necessarily A matter about If you can really really sing, but More so Compatibility yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, um, we talked about the single. Y'all got some Upcoming shows.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes.
Speaker 1:Which, which? And uh, is it next this week coming up or the 25th? It's next week, yeah. Is it the 25th? Yes, yes, and is it this week coming up or the 25th? Is it the 25th? Yeah, the 25th. C-i-a-a right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the 25th and the 26th. Is that the what C-F-G-R-A?
Speaker 1:Yes, how did that come about, you know?
Speaker 2:I ran into somebody. She found out that Mema said they did music. They referred us to them. Then they reached out to us and that's just how that happened. But it really wasn't planned right and God just blessed us with favor and we're very honored, you know, because they don't have to book you, they don't have to like. I think that people think that people should do stuff for you, you know people don't have to do anything. They don't yeah so we're really honored. We're going to perform multiple times there too.
Speaker 1:It's the whole weekend, right.
Speaker 2:I think they're having a whole weekend, but we're performing two days in a row.
Speaker 1:Pretty much the whole weekend. Yeah, so we're honored.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's really huge.
Speaker 3:It's a huge blessing. We realize, you know sometimes people get stuff and they don't realize. Yeah, you know, sometimes people get stuff and they don't realize, yeah, yeah what um do you have like a manager or?
Speaker 2:we have publicist we are working with someone. We are working with someone, but in terms of, like booking stuff, it's me and my sister we do the booking so y'all like independent. Yeah, yeah, but we do have like, yeah, we do have management. We do have, like you know, a team of network. We network with people, but in terms of like booking me and my sister, we book our own stuff.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right, cool, right, cool, um. Now with the bookings and everything. How is it on the gospel side of um? I know it's drama, it gotta be you know, what I mean.
Speaker 2:It's drama everywhere right, yeah, you know what I mean, because I'm not you know I'm just trying to be straight up like because people want to.
Speaker 1:People want to know, like because even me, I'm new into understanding how gospel works as far as gospel music and just the church, the things that go on in the church, is it always? Not always, but do y'all do coming across like barricades that somebody might like try to stop you from doing something, or they're like gatekeeping, because there's a lot of gatekeeping on the R&B, hip-hop side.
Speaker 2:I think it's in the industry in general.
Speaker 1:In general.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would say like years ago it was like a while ago we might have. We might have some type of disagreement with somebody. You can just tell you had disagreement and the person might have said something that wasn't proper but, the other person realized, like they watched this, like oh, there's no validity in what they said and they just disregard what was said. So sometimes you have stuff like that, but that's in any way. Any anywhere you go, you could be at work and someone could.
Speaker 2:Y'all could just have a disagreement and y'all can mean just not be. You know mashing well, and a person can say something about you. But if a person have good common sense for themselves and they start well, they can examine like, okay, that's your personal feelings, that's not right. What's actually going on?
Speaker 1:okay, because I mean I just I'm very observant of certain things, like I one thing about me. I just sit back and watch how things go before I like making a comment or anything. That's why I always ask you don't know if you don't ask you know, and I see and I'm like why they doing that, why they acting like that, or? But you know, to each his own. So, like y'all said, it's everywhere.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't think you can avoid it. I like anywhere you go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, why you think that is though.
Speaker 2:People.
Speaker 3:Yes, wanting to protect what they have. You know, intimidation is a. It's lots of things you know um.
Speaker 2:You know it's lots of things why does which people realize that if god decides to put you in a space that, even if I didn't care for you, I can't remove whatever God has for you and people need to take themselves out the equation and stop thinking that they can hold stuff hostage? No, if that arena belongs to that person and you're there, if you don't move on your own, god will cause something to make you move. God sets people up in high positions so, like I think, people in their pride and thinking they can stay here, do that. I'd rather leave instead of be moved by God.
Speaker 1:Figure on that, Figure on that. Um, there are people like so you know, I used to think as a kid, you know, when you're a pastor, like that's just it, Like that's all you do, you know, like that's, like that's how he puts food on the table For artists, you know, what do you, what do you do on the side, or not even the side, like what is your main thing? That like your job or occupation, that you do?
Speaker 3:well, we both work in law y'all lawyers no lawyers criminal justice yeah we're both in the same field how y'all end up in that um, I ended up in that like forget how many years now, but I've been in it ever since justice too, so I guess it just naturally fit.
Speaker 2:I also went to school for music and I went to school for criminal justice.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right, and how do you like? Do you like it? Because some people, you know they just be working just to work instead of, just like you know, loving to work.
Speaker 2:It's not bad. I mean, I'm accustomed to the field so it's easy for me, but it's not my main job. Like music is our main job, but you do need money to support what you're doing Just some fun.
Speaker 1:whatever you're trying to do, that's it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for some fun whatever you trying to do? That's it. Yeah, kids.
Speaker 1:No, not physically no.
Speaker 2:No, kids, not physically, but basically we take care of our nieces.
Speaker 1:Okay, for real, those kids, yeah Because.
Speaker 3:I got my aunt.
Speaker 1:My aunt's like my mom. You know what I mean. You know how family is. You know, even though you got a mom, even though you got a mom, you still got your aunts. They're the ones you hang out with because they super cool, right? Yeah, they're spoiled, cj.
Speaker 2:CJ. Sorry, ariel Aaliyah.
Speaker 1:CJ was the one who was on the first time.
Speaker 2:No, no no, that's our nephew John. We love him so much.
Speaker 1:Yes, john, yeah is he the oldest?
Speaker 2:he's not the nephew the niece's nephew no, no, he's not the oldest.
Speaker 3:My brother and his wife have kids, has a lot of kids yeah, the boy and the kid yeah, but he isn't the oldest. My sister that passed her daughter is the oldest.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:So her daughter's the oldest, and then we have nieces and nephews from there.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:So yeah, and that's cool. That's dope, dope, auntie, the sing Do you teach them how to sing, maybe trying, yeah, no but we can tell that they have some skill there, but they just have to start singing more, and they have to, you know, come out of that shell.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm. Yeah, I took choir in senior year. That was it.
Speaker 2:But you can sing, can't you? It was an easy.
Speaker 1:A no, I can't sing you can?
Speaker 2:I can hold a note, oh, okay, but you can produce, yeah, I produce. I can tell you how to sing Like hey, that's because your keys and stuff, the gifting, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm like hey no, that's not it.
Speaker 1:Sing it like this Because the way and I'd be like man, how did people be like yo, how do you do that? And I'm like that's a gift.
Speaker 1:I'm like I don't know, but now that yeah, it's a gift because it's like I just I give it back to, like my grandfather. You know he played records Like that's why I got a record player. You know what I mean. Like he played records every day. You know what I mean Every day. Then my dad, my uncles, it was always a musical. So your family yeah, my dad played the saxophone.
Speaker 2:Oh, I love the sax.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my brother played the saxophone, I played the drums, but like my grandfather, just them oldie but goodie records, Like he played, you know, and I, just I would listen, Even when you didn't want to listen.
Speaker 2:It was like Because they was playing it every day. They played it so loud, yeah, like my grandfather would be, in the basement and.
Speaker 1:I'd be on the like upstairs Like you hear all those songs and I'm like man. But I think that's what helps with me. It's like I can't sing, sing, I think if I wanted to like to get vocal coaching.
Speaker 2:It's not like that.
Speaker 1:It would be easy for your thing it would be easy, because, I mean, I had to do it in choir.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like every morning. Yeah, but you process it while you're playing stuff?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I definitely do. Who do you work with as far as production and, you know, outside of Terrence?
Speaker 2:Like do y'all have like a set producer?
Speaker 1:well, like taryn's, like the main producer and um.
Speaker 2:We just worked with someone recently named um rick and I think his last name lisa givins. He did an excellent job on I can go home and garrett, who we always work with. He shout out to gDA yeah, we love Garrett.
Speaker 1:He's fam.
Speaker 2:Now We've been with him since 2020. And me and my sister didn't realize it, like it's been five years now with him, but yeah, this time he helped produce the record, so that was pretty cool and yeah, so we just we normally select people who will properly interpret what we're trying to convey, cause, like because a lot of people that do know us, our sound doesn't match our personality to a certain extent, so sometimes a person will still try to interpret what we're trying to convey versus our personality. That's not the sound that we want.
Speaker 3:So, like right, they'll get it mixed up with our personalities, because people think maybe we would have a traditional sound versus a. It's like you know, it's not, you know.
Speaker 2:We have that in us as well. But if we're giving you something, I don't care how skillful you are, just respect what we're trying to give you and don't deviate. Don't do your interpretations you are, just respect what we're trying to give you and don't deviate. Don't do your interpretations. So I think what we really like about Terrence is that, even though he's accomplished a whole, whole lot, he wasn't acting like that.
Speaker 3:He was very humble and he sent us multiple versions of Narrow Way so we could be happy and it was a build up, because initially he was like trying to see how he wanted to make sure he was kind of playing it safe, and then he expanded, as he was like we said you know, you had to tell him be yourself, you know we wanted him on the track.
Speaker 2:You gotta give me permission. He was like all right. And then he just went Shout out to Esquire.
Speaker 1:I love my bro, he's always like that, even when we was in the studio he just listens. I mean, I remember us working with Kerry Gordy and he had this beautiful singer, ayla. I still keep in contact with her today. I think she's 18 now, but she was like 14 or 15 when we was with her at the studio and it was just, it was just like like bugs on the wall just listening to everything that Kerry Gordy, you know that's.
Speaker 2:Berry Gordy's son yeah.
Speaker 1:Listening to everything that he's like doing, how he's recording her, how he wants it, and he's very meticulous.
Speaker 2:Oh, he learned from his dad, yeah, and.
Speaker 1:I was like okay, this is why and you know me being from Detroit you know Motown's right there.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I'm like so this how it was going on, and I know for sure that that helped him later on like how to work with people. But he's always been humble, always he don't brag, he don't. He don't brag, he don't. Yeah, but he just work.
Speaker 2:I feel like normally, people that are sure of themselves doesn't feel the need to brag yeah, no need.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, like I don't, I don't have to show you because you know you can. You can just look it up well, because you know, I feel like you know, you know yeah, and, and that's that's another thing too is I think I ain't gonna say it's a Virgo thing we're both Virgo, but um, I just think it's, it's more of a, um, we can say like military yeah, young, background.
Speaker 2:You, you know what.
Speaker 1:I mean Because, like, we know what we can do. It's only for you to see it. You know what I mean. I can show you better than I can tell you, but we know, like, who we are. It's just like, let us you know what I mean. Let's try to figure out, like we always try to come to a solution Because you know you don't have people that have problems. Everybody comes to you with problems, never no solution. So when you have solutions, you know what I mean and you can come up with the. You know how to fix it together. It's always gonna be, you know the, the end goal for us, like, how can we make this song better? What can I do to fix it? Less is more. Which one we take out which one? And I think working with artists like y'all is definitely a plus. Cause y'all is definitely a plus? Because a lot of times people don't let us be us really yeah, it's been.
Speaker 1:I want it like this, I want it like this. Ah, you know what man, um, that was another thing for me, like working with um gospel artists, and it was, uh, she was, I guess, getting into like gospel rap, oh, and that's a whole another thing. You know what I mean, cause it's like they're trying to rap the word, which they are, but they're trying to use the same method as beats as rap, like hip hop oh, okay, so it's nothing wrong with it, cause I like me 1k.
Speaker 1:You know about 1K Few yeah yeah, yeah, he's super dope. He is super dope.
Speaker 1:And you know his production is around my area, like I do that a lot. So this girl I was working with one of my friends had hit me up and said hey, I got a girl that wants to do that, wants to rap. She has the song already, she just wants to remade. So I listened to the song. It was Glorilla beat, so that's why she wanted it remade. But she wanted me to remake it just like that and I'm like that's stealing. You can't do that. I'm like I can't, she's like. So I made what I thought she would like. She's like ah, I don't know about that.
Speaker 1:Made another one Sent her, like Esquire sent her another version, another version, another version, and it got to the point where I was doing all of this and she hasn't even came to the studio. You know what I'm saying. And I'm like, and she didn't pay for it. My friend, the one that recommended me her, paid for it for her, Like as a gift, like if you want to do this like. If you want to do this music, I know somebody that can really help you with it.
Speaker 2:Right, right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:And she was just like ah, and her and her mom got involved, was like well, you know, she wants it like this and she wants it like that, and I'm just like but she wasn't trying to like take, she was kind of like the round, using it as a reference right. No, she, when she sent me the rough it was the FNF beat the song that everybody know Glorilla from and she was rapping gospel to it and I'm like you can't rap over that like you can't put that out so she don't understand it right.
Speaker 1:So I was trying to explain it to her and her mom, you know, and I'm okay with like I'm very patient with people, so I'm like I'm explaining it to her and I was like here, here, go a beat that can in that realm of it, but it don't. It's not that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can you can do the realm of it, change it, but not straight. Take the exact same thing. You got to get someone else to do it. It got to be something different. It can, it can, yeah, but not what she was doing. She was taking the exact same thing.
Speaker 1:You got to change it and I was like, like you can't. I said the only way I said you can rap off that beat, but you can't put it out. You can't put it out and try to publish it and have it out on a streaming platform yeah, because the thing is, you'll get away with it if it doesn't go anywhere.
Speaker 1:Yeah, nobody knows you but, let that really fly she gonna want her money, and that's what they do. They wait, take off. If they see it on the radar, they literally will just sit there and wait and see if it's gonna take off and then see, or if they just tired of you, they'll just send a cease and desist.
Speaker 1:But hey, you need to take that down now or we're gonna come after you. So, um, yeah, that's why you know asking like, how is it like working with other producers and you know artists, because I know sometimes it could be a little shaky.
Speaker 2:I think that's right. Right now it's just me and my sister. We do want to implement more people, but we just need to make sure I think sometimes a small circle is best, because God been blessing us with the little people that we've been utilizing. Eventually, we were talking about we do want to work with more people, but it just has to be the right fit people that we've been utilizing. So eventually we were talking about we do want to work with more people. But it just has to be the right fit. We like peace.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:Gotta protect the peace. Gotta protect the peace Now. Alma, I heard you were a published author.
Speaker 3:Yes, Talk to me about it. I have a book. It's a poetry, spoken word. It was the first book, and Hills and Valleys and the Spiritual Warfare in Between is the second. So the first book is a book of poetry. The second is a book of poetry slash, devotional. So it's about stuff that I went through in my life, mistakes and errors that I made in hopes to encourage somebody else, you know, to. You know, come to Christ or in their Christian walk. That's, that's my hope, that's my goal, because then I'm, I'm being really transparent in the books, very transparent. You know some scars I didn't want to reveal, but people need to be helped know that you haven't always been where you are, you know, currently you know, it's.
Speaker 3:You know it's a process. Have a past are. You know, currently. You know it's. You know it's a process. Have a past. You know, everybody has a past. Sometimes we want people to think that we just literally just always been a certain way I don't like that, but that's not true. That's not real, and people need help and I still need help and we still need help.
Speaker 1:So that's a super fact. But what? What started you to? What made you want to start writing?
Speaker 2:Go ahead.
Speaker 3:The young lady that was at our church. She asked me she's like I want you to write a book of poetry? I'm like, huh, okay, but I always. God gave me faith a certain way. I mean that you know he gave me faith a certain way so I would be like okay, even if I'm not sure I would go after it. So you know he's like go ahead, sell my book and publishing, everything is. And then the second one is in. Like major stores, walmart is published, you know, like worldwide Wow.
Speaker 2:Yes, I'm so proud of my sister.
Speaker 1:What was the second?
Speaker 3:book hills and valleys and the spiritual warfare in between hills and valleys and the spiritual warfare in between yes, it's in barnes, and noble um is it on like um audible?
Speaker 1:no?
Speaker 3:you gotta get no we have to, but we have another one coming too. I have a um, a um it's like more expanded the first book, so it's going to be. I'm have devotion in there also, so that's coming and that will be on, um, it's going to be. I want to say I think it may be on, I make sure, um, but it definitely is going to be on the internet yeah, I love audio.
Speaker 1:I love audiobooks, um, um think, like Think and Grow Rich Richest man in Babylon. I just got done with the what was it? Wallow book I just downloaded. So like when I'm out, when I'm driving, yeah, I love listening to the audio books, even home, like I just turn it on, just listen and I think that's that's the books to me. Um, it reached me more because I hear that person voice, or the person that's reenacting that that person help you to connect it helps me connect, because when I'm just reading, reading.
Speaker 1:I'm like, oh okay, all right, Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all right, it can be boring Something. I think, because we're artists, I need to be, something needs to excite me.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:I need to feel like I'm going on a rollercoaster.
Speaker 1:Yeah of their voice, sometimes like they get low that helps Like oh, eric Thomas, you Owe you. Oh my God, that book, like I listened to that book and the way his inflection.
Speaker 2:He knows to keep people's attention.
Speaker 1:He knows how to come low, he knows how to go high, he knows how to stay in the mid and he even talks about it. Like you know, this is the did it and he's from Detroit and learning that he was a you know he was a pastor minister and you know he started. He called himself the hip-hop preacher now. So, um, it definitely is super dope to learn, like you know, the things that you owe yourself. Um, so, yeah, audibles always get me. I can go through books, like how somebody can read books. I go through an audible like that.
Speaker 2:That's that music in you too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you can you can fast forward the voice a little bit, so instead of having them talk in their normal slow voice, I can speed it up to like I put it at 1.5. So then I speak a little faster.
Speaker 2:a little faster. You know what I mean, instead of them.
Speaker 1:Just you know this and that and you got to worry about this. You got to look at no, I'd be like hey, you know it's, I'm like yeah.
Speaker 3:I like to read fast.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I feel you. I like to read fast.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it catches on, it catches, it keeps me going and it self-reliance, self-direction, something you know to do.
Speaker 2:What's next for y'all? Well, we're performing at the Baltimore Arena for the. Ciaa next week. Wow, that's quick, and we're also performing in April.
Speaker 1:Because I was like two weeks ago when y'all told me yeah, yeah, when y'all performing in April at PA.
Speaker 2:I can't think of the exact address.
Speaker 3:Pennsylvania right, I can't think of the city right now, but Pennsylvania, so it's going to be a concert, so we're going to.
Speaker 2:it's just us. We're featured on the concert, so we're honored. They found us on the internet, reached out to us. So we've never been there, so we. So we've never been there, so we're honored to celebrate you. Yeah, it's really exciting to go to different churches and experience different cultures and experience different ways that people praise God.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Because it's different denominations right.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Which ones have you been to so far?
Speaker 2:Well Hope Center was Non-denomination. Yeah, the one in April, I can't think of.
Speaker 3:Is it Christian? No, it's Christian, but yeah, we have to look at it to make sure.
Speaker 2:but and then we performed at a wedding and it was really pretty neat because they had communion at the wedding. Wow yeah, it was really pretty neat because they had communion at the wedding.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was so backstory. I have other, different degrees or different things, and I wanted to be a part of learning more about medicine and stuff and do stuff in the medical field. So I was in school for that and before I took my test as singers or anything that you're gifted in, you utilize it to process stress. So I was about to take a test and I started singing. But I was singing to calm me down and my teacher heard it and she said oh, you have a beautiful voice. So she wanted me and my sister to sing my graduation. So in doing so, the staff members found out we could sing. He found out our music, so we end up singing at his wedding wow, and from the school yes, so, um, he's black, his, uh, his wife is white.
Speaker 2:And to see the blended family so beautiful yeah and um as singers. If you can sing, you don't need music to sing.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:So we would sing without music and the acoustic. It was beautiful, it was so unique. I really loved the experience and that was my first time seeing someone taking communion at a wedding.
Speaker 1:That's the first time I ever heard of it too, yeah.
Speaker 2:So it was really great. And also as singers, it's like if you can really sing, you really don't need music. You don't need anything if you can sing. So we were just singing out music and they were like really impressed and really pleased and they wanted us to sing more songs, like no, the only exes was dude.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yes, they told us later that one of the family members she was like she was really impressed. She was saying she wanted us to stay more.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, do y'all charge yes For the Absolutely. I'm just asking. You know, some people might, you know, might be a love offering.
Speaker 2:I don't know, Even if you do so. For instance, when I would do concerts at my church, my sister would help me and some other people in our church would help. Right, being an artist, I probably wouldn't tell him I was going to give him my money. But when he came there, I was like, thank you, and I put money in their hand. They were like, oh, I'm surprised. No, like you don't have to come here and do this, you don't have to do that.
Speaker 2:And I value the gift that you have, so I'm not going to sit there and not pay you.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:You know. So yeah, I don't. I think that people should consider you asked me to come, so you should think of me, you should consider that you need me. You asked, you asked us, right, mm-hmm? So show love, you can give something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I totally agree, a love offering something.
Speaker 2:Something you know, to show that you appreciate. Something, because sometimes I be like and yeah, and you have to tell people no sometimes yeah.
Speaker 1:All right, now it's time to get. I love it. Yeah, we got all the good ones out the way. I'm about to give you one of the best ones. Question what is your top? Yo not even gonna say top three favorite bible verse.
Speaker 2:I love. I have a lot of. I used to read revelations a lot, but I love psalms one.
Speaker 1:I'm sure.
Speaker 3:I have a couple Ephesians 6, 10. Finally, my brethren be strong in the Lord and the power of his might, and it is psalm 119, I think 135. Ephesians 6.10, finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and the power of his might, and it is Psalm 119, I think 135. Great peace have they which love thy law. Nothing shall offend them. So just you know, goals like being strong in the Lord. You know, constantly serving the Lord and serving the Lord continually, that's a part of being strong in the Lord. But the great peace have they which love thy law, that's you know, that's a part of being strong in the Lord. But the great peace of the day which loveth Allah, that's you know. That's not allowing anything to bother you, not allowing anything to, you know, offend you and get in your spirit. So that's you know that's something that that's.
Speaker 3:Psalms 119?
Speaker 2:Yes, yes.
Speaker 3:And that's yeah. So that's one of mine because it's like the goal you know, to make sure that nothing is bothering us.
Speaker 2:You know, things happen in life and we not always like yeah, so we just have to, you know absolutely right, I like the book of Nahum in Old Testament because no one really reads from it and it describes and I'm paraphrasing because I want to take from the Bible but it describes the clouds or the dust of God's feet and I just think that's so unique, because clouds are beautiful, yeah, so like that's the dust of god's feet, yeah, like that's serious.
Speaker 1:I had to check that one out yeah, yeah, it's um, it's um.
Speaker 2:Nahum is n-a-h-u-m. Yeah, I believe it's the. I want to say the first chapter and a third verse. Okay yeah I'll text it to you, but like it just tripped me out, like, and you don't really hear people referencing it, I'm like it's always New Testament. No, that's the Old Testament.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying. It's always New Testament that you hear about, it's the normally like. Nobody really talks about the Old Testament like they, and I'm learning that too. Mine is Ecclesiastes 3.
Speaker 2:Amen Yep.
Speaker 1:Seasons it's time for everything, that's all Well.
Speaker 2:The Bible is relevant anyway, but that's always relevant.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I was in boot camp, and I tell the story all the time In order for us to get away from the drill instructors. It was on Sundays, so that's when I started going to church. Listen, I'm serious.
Speaker 2:But it helped you. It helped you, I started going to church.
Speaker 1:I needed at least a few hours just to get up, man, because they were always on us, on us, on us. And you know, the Marine Corps boot camp is three months, everybody else is two months, one month.
Speaker 2:But y so like.
Speaker 1:I'm like yo, I'm going to church on Sundays and that's when I found out, because they was like man, why don't you go to church? You want to get away from the drill store, to go to church, like for real, go to church. And you know it was a Protestant church and I was listening.
Speaker 1:Like I wasn't just there just chilling, I was really like listening to what he was saying and he was like Ecclesiastes 3 everything happens for a reason. There's a season for everything. You know what I mean. It's a time for peace, it's a time for war, it's a time to laugh, it's a time to cry, like you know paraphrasing too, because it's a on me, because I really felt everything Like it's a time for everything. You know what I mean. I feel like right now, what we're going through right now, it's just a season.
Speaker 2:Yes, it is.
Speaker 1:It's a season, and what seasons they change all the time. So I look at it like that Like whatever's going on in this world right now, it'll pass. You know what I mean. And it helped me understand me, too, going to actually going to Iraq Like it's a time for peace, it's a time for war. You experienced a lot. I went to Iraq twice so it helped and I think that me personally, I think that's what helped me get through everything. You know what I mean. Build you up, yeah. So I always look at that and I tell people like Ecclesiastes 3. You know what I mean and they be like what.
Speaker 1:Ecclesiastes 3. What are you talking about? I'm like Go look at it, just go look at it and see what I'm talking about. And when they look at it, hey, you're right, it is. You know what I mean, and it's it helped me understand. Like God didn't, he won't. Like everybody wants, like you're great, to have peace, but sometimes we have to go fight those battles against the enemy that's doing devilish things, or you know what I mean, things of that nature. But you also have to understand that these people are really bad. Are they bad? You know what?
Speaker 1:I mean are they bad, or is it somebody's agenda to make them look bad? You know what I?
Speaker 2:mean, and then you fight an engine. That's the thing.
Speaker 1:So when you start looking deeper into certain things, like man, some of these people it's beautiful people in our rap, you know what I mean. And we giving out toys playing soccer with kids, giving them different things, and you know it's like they ain't like that. Was me living like that. You know what I mean. They don't even have traffic lights, but just imagine how many cars be in accidents.
Speaker 2:A lot. They don't have wow, they don't have traffic lights.
Speaker 1:They don't have traffic lights, so who decides when to stop Somebody?
Speaker 2:just be like you go, I go, we like.
Speaker 1:If they speeding like they speed, they speed over there Like it's no speed limit.
Speaker 2:Oh my, so there's no order.
Speaker 1:There's nothing that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:There's no order, there's no structure.
Speaker 1:It's a third world country. There's no structure at all, like there's no speed limits, there's no traffic lights. I'm sorry. They barely have street lights. Wow, you know what I mean. But the houses is crazy. The houses are beautiful. Like you know, they like clay on the outside, but they're beautiful. We've been inside the houses and that's when we learned, like you know, the Arabic Islamic people, they, they don't, they don't wear their hair down until they're inside their own house.
Speaker 1:Only time you see a woman's hair down you know, but they have furniture, but their furniture is like lower to the ground, and you know what I mean. They have the same, you know same stuff as us.
Speaker 2:It's just their custom is different.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's just it's just different and, um, seeing that I'm just like yo, these people, these people in the middle of something they ain't got. They ain't got. No, it's not even like. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:That's the unfortunate part of war you know what I mean, and it's like.
Speaker 1:This is how they live.
Speaker 2:And then you. I mean you have to do what you're told, because you're.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you know what I mean. Like it's rules of engagement and things of that nature and we never, we never did anything prude to the people.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's good, that's good. You, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:We respected the people, but if you were on our list as a suspect, then you were on the list.
Speaker 1:We got to snatch you up if we get you. You know we got to snatch you up. That was the goal to snatch you up and detain you and bring you back and question you and stuff like that. But it didn't always go that way, you know. So yeah, just seeing that, like you know, I always give a story Like we used to drive on the trucks, because that was my job, I drove the trucks, we used to drive the trucks and you know, you see a herder and a sheep, you know, walking all the time, and one time they purposely strapped a bomb to the sheep because they knew we would stop, and they strapped a bomb in a sheep and it blew up one of the trucks in the front. It wasn't us, it was another unit.
Speaker 2:You had to kill the sheep, though I was with you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know. That's wicked but yeah, so they were. That's how I learned you respect your enemy, because you never know the capabilities of what they can do, and that's the wisdom.
Speaker 2:When you're talking and you are trained and you talking sense.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you have to respect like everybody. That's why I give people respect until it's shown otherwise you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:And it's like, okay, let me move on, get out of the way. Yeah, yeah, shown, otherwise you know what?
Speaker 2:I mean, and it's like okay, let me move on, get out of the way A lot, yeah, yeah, it's funny that you're saying that because I used to work in a criminal, insane jail and I know I was graced for it, but at the time I didn't realize it, I didn't think it was a big deal. My parents were like you for it and they had a lot of respect for me, like I didn't fear them, like they had a lot of respect for me but I knew it was good, because if you show fear, yeah, but that's when they but I think they respect it. Like so people like oh they crazy, they're not that crazy. They know if you're a good person, they know if you're evil right they like they still have some sense there.
Speaker 2:So I wasn't. I wasn't mean, I wasn't disrespecting them, I wasn't talking to them like they were beneath me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's the main thing. Right there, I feel like people automatically put people on different levels. I'm here with you. I'm here with you, I don't care if you're a billionaire, I don't care if you're a homeless person, I'm here with you and you care if you're a billionaire, I don't care if you're a homeless person, I'm here with you. And you know, even like the homeless guy down the street at the 7-Eleven, he asked like you know what I mean, I really don't carry cash.
Speaker 1:You know, what I'm saying. But I ask him sometimes hey, do you want something to eat?
Speaker 2:You know I can get you something to eat.
Speaker 1:I'm and I treat everybody the same because it's you never know. You know what I mean. You could be talking to a billionaire that looks like a bum.
Speaker 2:But don't care, because they know they really have the money. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And that's why I always seen like, I'm like why these people shouldn't be so dirty. I don't care that you see their house in there. I'll be like, oh.
Speaker 2:That's why Okay, that's why Okay, that's why First class.
Speaker 1:Yep, first class, dirty, see me walking past you and coach.
Speaker 3:You're like hey how you doing.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I treat everybody. Treat everybody the same. I try to teach my daughter's dad as well, like you know. Just because they don't have it, don't make fun of them or nothing like that. Because I remember you know what I mean. That was wasn't like you know what I mean me like. I was middle class, lower middle class, but I didn't have everything. You know what I mean, and it's like you see, everybody else, with all the Jordans, I might have one, pair, two pair or whatever Nikes or whatever.
Speaker 1:I just look at it, you know, and I learned that too. Like so, out here, everybody wears New Balances.
Speaker 2:In Detroit you can't.
Speaker 1:You would get clowned for wearing New Balances, really, yeah, but now everybody's wearing them back home and I'm like so they phone, they phone yeah like y'all was getting on us when we was kids with these New Balances, but now balances, but not everybody's wearing them now. So what's the style in Detroit? Air Force Ones, wow, yeah, forces, air Force Ones, of course Jordans. Yeah, jordans. Like I wear Vans because I was stationed in California and I love culture. Yeah, so I embrace the culture and if I like the shoe, I'm gonna wear it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like I'm me.
Speaker 1:Like I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I love, I always loved skateboarding. I just couldn't skateboard. So you know, huh, yeah, I'm like I ain't about to hurt myself. So yeah, it's just, air Force Ones is the main shoe back home. Oh, wow, we wear.
Speaker 2:Saconis, y'all don't wear Pumas, do you?
Speaker 1:No, we never wore Pumas like that they do now.
Speaker 2:Oh, so now? Because yeah, pumas are in style here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So like I know, like the 990s was the that's the mecca here. Like everybody got a pair of V4s, v3s, gray, all 990s, but then you couldn't wear that.
Speaker 1:Like those were like grandpa shoes, you couldn't wear that, but then I worked at Foot Locker and I was like, man, let me try on these shoes, while everybody always be gassing these shoes and I'm like, oh, they're comfortable, yeah, because everybody's always on the go. They're on the metro, they're on the bus. They got to walk somewhere. System in Detroit, no, here. New York, chicago and I believe LA are the only ones that have like a train system.
Speaker 2:Wow, I've never been to Detroit. I would like to go to Detroit.
Speaker 1:We've been a lot of places. You'll love it. If you don't like the cold, don't go now, but if you like the summertime, it's humid. It's humid like anywhere else. Okay, yeah, before we get out of here, I want to do my thing I always do. It's called gym class, not G-Y-M, g-e-m. What gym can you leave a young woman, a young adult, a young person, young human being? What gem can you leave them? To carry them, you know, to add to their toolbox?
Speaker 3:Oh, you touched on it earlier about seasons. Just persevere through your season. If it's a rough season right now, keep going through it, because seasons do change.
Speaker 2:I like that I do, I'm so hello my sister, she's a I'll call her the principal that's my nickname for her. The principal, I would say stay true to yourself. It's okay to get inspiration from other people, but don't be so inspired that you're mimicking them, you're copying them, you're intentionally trying to be them. God created you to be yourself, so be yourself.
Speaker 1:Be true to yourself, persevere through the seasons, keep it going, anything else y'all want to tell everybody when can they reach you? At the Fisher Girls.
Speaker 3:Yep at the Fisher Girls Facebook, instagram, tiktok and YouTube under the Fisher Girls also.
Speaker 2:But our website. You can email us for bookings.
Speaker 3:Yep. So the Fisher Girls look us up Facebook, instagram and please purchase our new song I Can Go Home.
Speaker 2:Yes, and the Fisher Girls email is fishergirls2 at gmailcom.
Speaker 1:Yes. Fishergirls2 at gmailcom. Yes, and like that we gone.
Speaker 2:Thank you for having us.
Speaker 3:No problem.
