Relationships Worth More Than Money Podcast
Conversations about relationships being valuable and worth more than money! its a heartwarming podcast that delves into the profound value of connections, friendships, and love that transcend the monetary realm. Hosted by Tweezy & a diverse range of guests, including athletes, artists, entrepreneurs, engineers and everyday people, each episode explores the immeasurable worth of relationships in our lives. Through compelling stories and thought-provoking discussions, the podcast inspires listeners to cherish the bonds they share with others, reminding us that the wealth of a meaningful relationship is far more precious than any currency. Tune in to "Relationships worth more than money" to discover the true treasure in life.
Relationships Worth More Than Money Podcast
From Gang Affiliations to Musical Transformation: Brien Johnson's Journey of Resilience and Redemption
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Brien Johnson joins us in a compelling conversation that peels back the layers of his latest musical project, "Life Before 16." From a youth entangled in gang affiliations and legal troubles, Brien shares a turning point at 15, when the stress he caused his mother led him to reassess his path. His candid reflections offer a glimpse into a life transformed by resilience and the absence of strong male role models, showing how a stint in juvenile detention became a pivotal chapter steering him away from crime.
The discussion unfolds the power of positivity and authenticity, particularly through the lens of music. He shares his own journey of rediscovery, moving to North Carolina and navigating co-parenting, which reignited his passion for music production. We delve into tracks like "Been Waiting For" and "Misguided," which echo the themes of longing and the struggles of growing up without role models, emphasizing how music serves as a conduit for personal expression and healing.
Marriage and fatherhood also take center stage, as we reflect on the lessons of commitment and the profound impact children have on our lives. Emphasizing the power of unconditional love and the importance of cherishing every moment, we share insights on patience and visualization, drawing inspiration from audiobooks like Charlamagne's "Get Honest or Die Lying." We invite you to explore our audiobook project, "The Waiting Room," as we weave stories that promise to inspire and resonate with anyone navigating their own life journeys.
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yes, sir, good, all right. Oh, hey, we back season two, episode two. Uh, I go by the name of tweezy. Y'all know who I am, but to the left of me who I? I got Got Brian Brian, who, johnson, brian Johnson, brian Johnson, bro, what's good man? What's up? We was just chatting, talking it up, man, how we like been knowing each other for like over five plus years, so you got something new out, yeah.
Speaker 2:I got a lot of things new. I got new music out. Yeah, I got a lot of things new. I got new music out. Yeah. And man, we're coming up on a book. Man, my first book coming out, called the Waiting Room.
Speaker 1:The Waiting Room and we're going to get on that. But you got something called Life After 16? Life Before 16. Life Before 16. Yeah, let's talk about it man, let's do it man. Life Before 16, man. What inspired 416, man?
Speaker 2:what inspired you to create this EP, man so with Life Before 16, man, it had been four years since I dropped the project and I was just at a place where, you know, so much had happened, man I got married, I had a kid and, at the end of the day, man, still, I still got a story to tell and, um, you know, I I was like man, I need to keep, keep working on my craft and keep working. So I was at a place where I got my studio set up in my own, my own spot. I was like, let you know, and I had started producing myself and all that, I was like, let me start making music again. Um, and it just kind of, just kind of took off from there, man, yeah, took me a couple of months to knock it out, man, but life before 16 is just like what?
Speaker 2:The kind of kid that I was, the kind of person that I was before I was 16, man, I was a wild kid man. My story's wild man, you know, was banging. All that stuff Got locked up before 16. Was banging, all that stuff got locked up before 16? And, you know, before, before I was, before, I, you know, gave my life over to god, man, I just wanted to put that project out man and um continue to tell that story you know.
Speaker 1:So when you, when you say you was, you was uh banging and all of that like what was? What was a normal day like that before 16?
Speaker 2:shoot. So, um, normal day for me, man was, was a was an easy wake and bake. You know, easy wake and bake. Uh, go to go to school, go through the front doors, out the back doors, and I failed my high grade year. Um, that's because I skipped school every single day. Man met up with the homies you know what I'm saying and just and just did whatever, whatever we, whatever came up to it, you know, came on our minds and do man, right, right, right, you um you was Crip Blood, I was Cripping it was Crips out here yeah, man Crips, traveling man right, that's uh what it was.
Speaker 1:Crips out here yeah, man Crips was traveling man, right, that's uh what I understand. Like the, the um, I guess you could say the teeter-totter or the uh transition. What is something you feel like you needed to change from? You know going from banging and skipping school and you know normal wake and bake, like what hit you and said, hey, let's switch it up 15 years old.
Speaker 2:15 years old and your mother comes and visits you. You're in a orange suit and you look at her, looking at all the stress that you're putting her through her hair thinning, you giving your own mother her first gray hairs. You know what I'm saying? Like that for me was kind of my turning point. I'm like yo you really tripping bro you know what?
Speaker 2:I'm saying Before then I couldn't take any accountability for what I was doing. It was everybody else's fault around me. And just got to that place, man, where my mom was visiting me in jail, I was like yo, this has got to stop.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying. So that's kind of what it was for me, man. You know what I'm saying. So that's kind of what it was for me, man. Gratefully man and I say this all the time being going to a juvenile detention center at 15, best thing that could have happened. Why do you say that I would have ended up in jail or dead? You know what I'm saying Because I mean legit was. I mean you name it. I was doing it, bro, from robbing, killing, fighting. I had three felonies and three misdemeanors by the time. I was 15 years old.
Speaker 1:Deep.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So there really wasn't too many other options where I would have ended up at if I would have kept going in that route.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so did you have any, like I know. But like you got siblings right. Yeah, I'm the youngest and you're the youngest. Where were your older siblings? They were brothers.
Speaker 2:I got. I got one older brother that's in Georgia and I have another brother that's in Texas and by that time I was doing that stuff. They really wasn't around like that and they out of the house at that point. But at that point me mom and I got an older sister, who's you know closer to age, but I didn't really have, no, I didn't really have no male role models there to yoke me up Like yo you tripping. So you know what I'm saying. I just kind of left my own devices. Where was dad at? Pops really was never in the picture man, he also lived in Georgia. He didn't really become. He didn't really become like verbally there, even like until after I got out where we kind of rekindled a relationship at that point. But before then he kind of knocked off.
Speaker 1:So like, like, do you feel like um your brother's not being there and your and your father not being there could be like a a result of like how you were acting?
Speaker 2:all right I so, in hindsight, it definitely wasn't from my brothers, and my brothers, at the end of the day, they I can't put that on them, they're not, you know, they're not my parent, but definitely pops not being there, for sure, man, you, you, you know, my mom used to always be like you know, brian, why do you think you're like that was kicked out of school. I got kicked out of every school I was in, oh, nine yards man, and she would be like, is it because your pops been there and I would? I would have this, this very um, like nonchalant, like man, I can't miss what. I don't never had type of type of vibe to it, but the whole time I was bro, I was, I was, I was feeling the absence of that structure not being there, that correction not being there, that discipline not being so, that correction not being there, that discipline not being there. So I didn't know it, you know what I'm saying. I couldn't put my finger on it as a teenager, but yeah for sure, that definitely, that definitely had an effect.
Speaker 1:Okay, now, looking back at it, I know you said you don't think your brothers had. It wasn't their fault, wasn't really getting at it like that. It's more like they're normally the ones that are looking after you. Yeah, you know what I mean. Taking you under the wing and trying to show you the rope, yeah, but not having them there. And then your dad and you seeing your mom, you putting your mom through all that stress when you hit 15 in that orange jumpsuit, that was the switch. That was the switch. So when you got out, what did you do, bro?
Speaker 2:by the time I got, out man, it had been 13 months. So I did 13 months in the public and then I went down to Richmond and did nine months down there. But by the time I got out, bro, I was locked in. I was 16 by the time I got out. I did my prom at 14, got locked in at 15, got out at 16.
Speaker 2:So this is all kind of three years, two and a half three years span. I locked in bro to like by that time I was praying. So I'm like oh God, whatever you want me to do, whatever you have for me, I'm doing it. You know what I'm saying. I'm not going back to the streets, none of that. So all the people that I was connected with I dropped. You know what I'm saying. First day I got out, one of the big, one of the big homies set me up like yo, you still down, are you still banging? And I was like no, like had to straight up tell him no, you know what I'm saying. And the conversation went like this Like where were you at the last 13 months of my life? I ain't get no letters from you. I ain't get no, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:I was about to ask that too. Yeah, like did any of them get you up?
Speaker 2:Nope, and you know what I'm saying. When you growing up, you hear that man, you hear folk talk about they at you know I'm saying it was, and it was like that, like right, like the only people that was really writing me was my mama, some shorty, you know what I'm saying. Like, but beyond, but beyond that man, like the people and folks that I was running around with doing all that stuff, man, they, there was nowhere to be found. So when I got out, you want to? You still down, you still banging, let's go do. No, there's a no me. You know what I'm saying. So, um, you know, drop that. And then, just I, I got connected to the church man, which was the the best thing that I think could have happened. Um, because it it gave me. It gave me a reason to get up, gave me a reason to stay off the streets, it gave me a reason to not fall back into that same cycle that I had been in prior to.
Speaker 1:You know, getting locked up, right right. Well, church to me, man, I feel like a lot of your answers get solved when you go to church. Sometimes I think us as black people, we kind of like kind of try to steer away from it and try to figure out our own our own way. Yeah, but we can't do it, yeah, we can't do it without the man upstairs.
Speaker 2:I was. So I was grateful enough then to where? So my mom took me to church growing up, but I was checked out by the time I was eight, nine years old. And here it is. You got to have a. You got to have a real relationship, like it can't. It can't be church, it can't just be you going to church and listen to that, to the pastor, because if you ain't got your own relationship with him, what he's saying sounds like a lottery ticket, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:It sounds like rambling a bunch of nothing Like it.
Speaker 2:Just it just don't, it just don't make sense, right? So I was grateful enough to where I had my, I had my own relationship with God, to where I was. Like me, going to church was a byproduct, you know what I'm saying, of my relationship with him. But you write them and I mean that community, that faith, that that what you need is it is found, you know, right there in that church.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Because I mean, like for me, man, I just got back. Yeah, what was that? Two months ago, kadeem, that's what's up, bro. Yeah, like two months ago, that's what's up, bro. You know what I mean. Because it was like for me, it was like, bro, I was lost. Yeah, you know what I mean, because I did the Marine Corps thing. Yeah, you know, I made it back twice, you know what I mean. And my cousin Ro told me he's like cuz, you know God, always been with you. I'm like, yeah, he been with me, but I ain't got no relationship with him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, and I feel like you know I needed me doing crashing out and doing crazy stuff. You know what I'm saying. I'm like yo, I need to get my answers answered and solved. I need to go talk to him.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So my best friend Quee, she introduced me you know what I mean to her church. Shout out to First Baptist, first Baptist shout out and from there, man like I was going to church and listening and everything that Pastor Jenkins was saying it was hitting home. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And when I looked I'm like man, yep, it's time, yeah, it's time.
Speaker 1:And then her mom like didn't know me from a can of paint. Yeah, she prayed for me, like she's like, I just want to pray for you. I feel something from you. I just want to pray for you, come on. And I was just like, yes, no, yeah, she wanted me to go holler.
Speaker 2:Yeah, holler at big God.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's what I did, man. I had my kids there. Yeah, I relationship it's on you you know what I'm saying to build that relationship, but you, I'm bringing you with me, so you, can see it. Like I'm not giving up. Yeah, you know what I mean, Because there's been times where I was just like man, I don't even know what I'm going to do you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:So it's good man in jail or whatever and switching your life around. And I always tell kids, man, you never know Like they might be going through something right now and when they see this, when they drop, it might hit them. You know what I'm saying. And I tell people all the time there's nothing wrong with having a relationship with God. Nah, bro, I think that's the dopest thing to have. You know what I'm saying. That's going to defeat the purpose of having that relationship. Yeah, I understand. So that's that's. I commend you on that for one.
Speaker 1:Same to you bro, yeah, appreciate it and two like man, you you always been a, a connector, you and Frank man, frank, like Frank, matter of fact connected us. He was like yo geez Holla at Brian man, he's dope. But you and Frank man, y'all always had that connection to where it was always positive. And I think that's what we're missing sometimes in our neighborhoods.
Speaker 2:Like it's positive.
Speaker 1:Everybody don't have to be sliding and doing all of this negative stuff. You know what I'm saying. You still can do great things and still be dope out here.
Speaker 2:You can be yourself, man. Yeah, be yourself and still, like you just said, be positive.
Speaker 1:Be positive, just be positive. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, and it's a lot of ways to go negative. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. It's definitely you can go negative easy, and I always tell my kids it's easy to get in trouble, right, it's hard being good. Yeah, which one are you going to do? Yeah, you know what I'm saying, because the hard way ain't going to get you nowhere and when it hit it ain't going to be nice. You know what I'm saying. So, yeah, life before 16. Yes, sir, you said you started back producing because I was going to ask you who produced it, because I listened to it. Okay, I listened to it plenty of times, a couple times on the way here. Yeah, and I'm like who did this production? You know what I mean. So you jumped back into yeah, that's me, man the whole joint, the entire top to bottom. How was it, man Like? How was it getting back into that realm of creating?
Speaker 2:Man, oh my gosh. So I'll tell you the truth, man, and I hit on it a little bit in my book, but me and my lady actually you know, me and my wife actually separated. We had separated for a couple of months, man, and a lot of people don't notice, but I actually had moved. I had moved out of the state, moved to North Carolina. Yeah, I was doing the whole co-parent thing for a while, man, and during that time, man, I didn't touch music. I didn't touch music. I was just down there grinding, man, make it back to the kid whole nine yards.
Speaker 2:And then, probably in May, we ended up reconciling and I ended up coming back home, like I said, the first thing that I did was jump back into the music, into the craft, just got back into it and, honestly, I was like man, I felt like I had lost it. I was like man, I ain't, I don't even know if I can do this, blah, blah, blah and it just kind of. I just kind of picked it back up where I left it at, man, um, but yeah, man, I produced the whole thing, man recorded it, um, but it was, it was great. Go the way that I created it. You know the first track is us and I knew I wanted a synth to introduce the project. I don't know why, but I came across the synth. I was like, okay, that's it, and it just kind of built from there, man, and the rest of the tracks, man, just be kind of exploring and coming across what felt good to me and just kind of creating for me.
Speaker 1:So track two.
Speaker 2:Been Waiting For. Yes, sir.
Speaker 1:Where were? What were you coming from? What space you was coming from?
Speaker 2:Man. So, with Been Waiting For man, that is like man, like this is what I've been waiting for. I've been waiting to make music like this, like all of my other music before and there's nothing wrong with it was produced by other people. You know what I'm saying. I got an amazing track with you that was produced by you. I got another project, but to really like get to where I'm producing my own stuff, writing my own stuff, it just felt like me. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Um, so I was like man, this is what I've been waiting for, to put out music like this. So that's kind of what been waiting for is man. It's just like I've been waiting to make music like this. I was since I was a kid, like um, and I've been, I've been dreaming of putting out uh and doing it in this in this way, man, uh, for a while, because I was, I had, I was always on a, on a, on a fence about before, before I did this project I had did. The last thing was Time of my Life. I think I had California up there. Like I said, it was produced by other people, but my journey of man, of just like man, putting out music that, I know, felt authentic to me. I I don't. I didn't feel like I had done that yet. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So, um, been waiting for is that like when I've been waiting to put out music?
Speaker 1:okay, track three misguided misguided yeah, yeah, all right. So uh, track three. Bro, misguided, what where you was coming from on that track.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so with misguided man, it was everything that I was telling you about man, just kind of. I grew up misguided, no role models, and you know what I'm saying. Nothing to model after man. So misguided is that the chorus talks about. I was a little misguided and a lot more missing man. I was out there out on a mission, but that's really what misguided is about talking about misguided kids. You know what I'm saying, just trying to figure it out. Okay, four change is like I said. So everything I kind of told you from my little story that we just talked about, I put all in there man, about the life before 16. Change is that 15 year old kid uh, you know I talked about said 16 year old got them things on me. 16 year old got them chains on run up. You're going like, like going like 16-year-old in chains.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying and I just talked about my whole entire experience being locked up. You know what I'm saying In chains All right, home now. So once you get out of jail, you home now. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, is like cookout vibe, like you know what I'm saying. You go, you know, after you leave, come home from deployment, man, you know you want to see your people. You know what I'm saying. You want to connect, boom, boom, boom. So that's really what home now is, man, it's just like kiss the mama, kiss my baby, kiss my lady. You know what I'm saying. I've been gone for a minute Track six, Mrs White, Ms White bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, ms White man. Ms White, ah man, if anybody has a praying grandma, you'll really vibe with Ms White man. So Ms White was my babysitter. She was my first babysitter I ever had. She took me in probably like nine months, but what was beautiful about that about that was a prayer warrior. So, um, I think miss miss white saw something about my life before I did. Um, miss white would literally get the oil and put it on my head and pray for me and all that stuff. Man and, uh, I would run, I would run. She, when I start acting up, she like she. She called me bud like bud. You want me to go get the oil? I'd be like, no, you know what I'm saying, don't get it. You know what I'm saying Because I knew you get the oil. You're getting God involved. I didn't want no parts of it. But, yeah, miss White, she passed away, you know, some years ago. I'm into the things I'm doing now, right, but yeah, man, I wanted to make a song that you know that paid homage to white stuff.
Speaker 1:That's dope. That's dope. The last track right. Is there a finish?
Speaker 2:line, finish line, man, finish line is actually a track that I had dropped a year ago, but I was. I knew that this was all kind of in the works. But finish line is that, man, we're all on our own race, we're all on our own journey and you know, we got to hit that finish line, we got to follow through, we got to make it to the finish line. So that's what finish line is about. Man, I kind of go into, you know just kind of, what my last year has looked like. Man, like I said, me and my lady have separated. Man, I was freaking, staying in hotels and you know what I'm saying Just trying to get through the trenches, man. But ultimately, man, I got to make it to my finish line, I got my own race that I got to run Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what do you feel about the marriage? Well, how do you feel about the marriage? Well, how do you feel about marriage? Congrats on being married too. Oh, thanks, bro, because I remember you came to me and was like, bro, yeah, what'd you tell me? You was like, bro, I'm about to get married, I said. He said don't do it. Don't do it you sure? Yeah, I said are you sure? Right, don't do you sure, I said. I said I said are you sure? Don't do it unless you, unless you know for sure, I'm sure. Yeah, I love you, sure. And he was like, yeah, I'm sure. I said all right. I said, just know, it's going to be bumpy. Yes, sir, you know what I mean. And sure enough, bro, you was right, it's real. And I was like I told you. Yeah, I was like I told you, but you know, I'm glad to see y'all working it out. Yes, sir, because I don't wish you know what I mean divorce on anybody.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know what I'm saying and it's great to have a partner man, I talk about it so much, but you know I'm divorced, so it's like I try to give y'all the game on what not to do yeah, yeah, facts and how you can fix it. You know what I mean. Try to like be more proactive than reactive. Yeah, yeah, but how does it feel to be married and I not only went through a little turmoil, but you're back at it.
Speaker 2:Man, it feels. It feels great. Man, I think marriage is about commitment. You know what I'm saying. Growing up, I didn't see what commitment was, especially when you ain't got a father. You know, you don't see commitment being shown in life. So when you get married and you can't leave, that's it. You're gonna learn commitment. So, um, marriage has been probably the greatest teaching tool, man, for me. Man, um, me and my lady are, we're just different. You know what I'm saying. She's she, she's's a pastor's kid from Canada. I'm a, I'm a southern, southern boy with split parents. Man, and it's easy to that those two things clash. But we're learning. We're learning how to how to, how to how to work together, man, how to keep God in the center of our marriage and how to how to keep moving. Man, I got a son who needs me. I got a son who needs me.
Speaker 2:I got a wife who needs me and I got two daughters, who you know who needs me.
Speaker 1:So yeah, man, yeah. How does it feel to be a dad now?
Speaker 2:man, oh man, let me sit up when I say this. It's the best thing ever, man, yeah, man, if I would have own having my son, man, he teaches me so much. He teaches me so much, man, he's teaching me. He teaches me a lot. You know, we keep talking about God, but to me he teaches me a lot about that relationship with God and son. Like I know I can't do nothing to make God not love me, I see that when I see my son Right, the boy just pooped on the floor last week, yeah, I still love him. The boy just put his leg in the toilet yesterday, yeah, I still love him. You know what I'm saying. The boy I was trying to. You know I'm holding his hand to take him across the street. You know what I'm saying. He want to pull away and literally say, dad, let me go. You know what I'm saying. But he don't know I'm keeping him safe, Right, that's what God does. That's that loving relationship with God, man. So my son taught me everything.
Speaker 1:Man, I say he's the biggest blessing man, the best thing that ever happened to me. My two kids, my girls, like it calmed me down a lot, yeah, and it had me, like, look back at when I was a kid, yeah, and was like, damn yeah, I was like this, yeah, or dang yeah, was I this expressive? Yeah, like you know what I mean. And then you start looking back and you're like, okay, yeah, alright, you know what I mean. And I was telling, like on the last episode, go ahead, express yourself, yeah, tell me, yeah, you know it's girls like you got a son, so you know. I mean he's going to get to that point where he wants to express himself. Yeah, let me understand your world. Yeah, I mean like it's different man yeah, things are way different yeah, things are more expensive, yeah.
Speaker 1:So it's like you know, you look at them christmas lists and you're like where? Huh yeah, he's one. You want what?
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's one right now.
Speaker 1:So I'm grateful. So you good, I'm good right now. You good, you got about five, six more years, yeah, and he gonna be asking for some outrageous stuff, right? You know what I mean? Yeah, but my kids man, like, it's like I'm going to grind forward, yeah, but at the same time, I'm going to just make sure that we're good. Yeah, like everything's good. Yeah, and understanding them. You know what I mean. Yeah, kids will definitely change you. Oh, they, oh absolutely the best way. Yes, the best way.
Speaker 1:So it's no negative connotation towards that. Yeah, I mean my kids, man, bring the best out of me. Yeah, I mean, and it's like you seeing it on a day-to-day basis, like how fast they grow, oh my gosh. Yeah, because you're going to blink your eye. I'm going to give you another one. Yeah, you're going to blink your eye and you're going to be like I don't see 10. You know what I mean. Don't say that it happens so fast, bro. Yeah, man, because look his son 10. Yeah, tootie, about to be 10. I'm like, wow, yeah, my oldest about to be 13. I'm like I remember racing down 95 from Jersey to make sure I was at the birth.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying. And it felt like yesterday and it felt like yesterday.
Speaker 1:I remember flying from Cali to get back to DC. You know what I mean To see my youngest born, and it feels like yesterday. You know what I mean. And it's great, though, because it's like when you actually chill with them, hang with them and watch TV with them. Now they got opinions. Yeah, that's where it's like damn, yeah, like they really like having conversations. Yeah, and you know, mj, he gonna be talking like real sentences probably when he's like two or three. Yeah, he gonna be looking at him like what? Yeah, what made you like how you think like that, bro man, this boy yeah, he already.
Speaker 2:he's already on that vibe man. He already saying he say whatever you want to say, he tell. I mean I credit Miss Rachel, I don't know, if y'all know who Miss Rachel is.
Speaker 1:Miss Rachel, the truth.
Speaker 2:Yeah, miss Rachel is the truth. Yeah, I owe her some child support she be watching my kid for me. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Miss Rachel is amazing. Yeah, she's dope, but watch he's telling you what he want to eat now. Mm-hmm, watch when he start talking about having. He gonna have a conversation Three years old and you're going to be like, oh, that's his brain, that's him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're going to be like what?
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is crazy. Yeah, man yeah man Fatherhood has been the best. I love it. It is, I love it. What's next for you, bro? What's next? Man you got a book coming up.
Speaker 2:Yes, sir, yes, the waiting room.
Speaker 1:Talk to me about it.
Speaker 2:Man. So the waiting room man, I had had somebody years ago ask me was I ever going to write a book? And I said, no, I'm not writing a book. You know what I'm saying and I'll tell you the truth, man, and I'll tell you how it came about. But the last thing that was even on my mind was writing a book. But yeah, I'm going to tell you how that came about is, I was literally sleeping. I was in a dream and inside of my dream I was inside of a waiting room and the cover of the book is actually what my dream was Right. So I'm in the dream and I hear God say write a book. And I was like no, like, first of all, all I ain't got enough life experience to write a book, yeah, I ain't made it yet. Like, like, I don't know, like I gave God all of these excuses why I couldn't do what he told me to do inside of the dream, and um, but I heard back that now, yeah, but okay say no more.
Speaker 2:But okay, say no more Say less Like say no more, I ain't got nothing.
Speaker 1:Say less, yeah, I ain't got nothing else.
Speaker 2:So I woke up from that dream and sometimes, man, sometimes when I dream you know, if I don't remember it, then to me it doesn't matter but I was driving later on that day and it popped back into my mind and I'm like, okay, let me take that serious. And that's really where it came from. It's out of my dream. Like I said, I was out of this waiting room and on the walls. In the dream I saw the waiting room on the wall. So I'm like, okay, that's what it is. So I tried to make the cover as best depicting that dream as I possibly could. But basically, what the waiting room is about, man is, um, when god gives you a promise, you know, when god tells you like, hey, something's gonna happen in your life, like, um, this is gonna happen. From the time he gives you that, the time he delivers on that promise, you're in the waiting room. You're in the waiting room. You're in the waiting and a lot of us that's where I feel like a lot of us are at we're in a waiting season to what we feel like God is going to bring us into or where God is staying to us. We can look at, like you know in the Bible. Look at Noah. God told him to build his ark. Look at, like you know in the Bible. Look at Noah. God told him to build his ark.
Speaker 2:It took 60, 70 years for that flood to come. From the first time he gave Noah that hey, build his ark. A flood's coming when that flood actually came. Think about that in between time. What? What did Noah go through? He probably went through doubt, like, did God really tell me he was going through this? He brought his whole entire family on this thing. He done, got all these animals up here. It's just 30, 30 years later and there still ain't no flood. Right 40 years later, there still ain't no flood. But god was preparing. God was preparing noah. God was preparing whatever for that time. Um, so that's really what the waiting room is about. Man is just like what do you do in your time of waiting, when you're waiting god to deliver on you?
Speaker 1:know nice. Are you gonna do an audiobook for it too?
Speaker 2:um, so I think it is, I think it does. It comes out on kindle and it comes out on amazon. I want to say that there'll be an audiobook for it too I mean, if you haven't recorded it, oh then maybe not yeah, okay but you can just record it, yeah, record the readings of it.
Speaker 1:I might need to get on that, because that's what I'm big on audiobooks. Yeah, because you know, I'm always in the whip, I'm always in the car. You know what I'm saying. I'm always doing something, yeah, so I think the best way for me to like hear a book, I'd visualize it right then read it and visualize, okay, yeah, I'm saying yeah, I think with me with audiobooks, because I can hear where, where, where you're coming from.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that person who, whatever author, okay, is giving me the description of it, or like, for instance, um charlamagne, um, his last book, uh, what is it? Get honest or die lying wow, yeah, that book. So like I can hear it in his voice on Get Honest or Die Lying Wow, yeah, that book. So like I can hear it in his voice on what he was going through, what he was doing therapy, that's dope, all of these things. And being truthful and honest about his life, yeah, and I think that was the dopest part of it, because I can visualize it, I can see exactly where he was at at these points and times and these chapters of his life. That's dope, and I think if you do the same thing, that's going to skyrocket you too. Yeah, because what I noticed with doing music, man, it's not just music. Right, you have to give a person a vision.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's not only the listening part. The visual, yeah, it's the imagination, it's the creativity. Yeah, the visual it's the imagination, it's the the creativity. And I think if, when you step outside of the music and do a book, that helps, like you're building your portfolio of you. And that's why a lot of people with me, they was like yo please ain't doing music, no more, you're doing podcast. I'm doing the same thing, right, never gonna stop music. Yeah, but podcasting to me one, it helps me, they're therapeutic to me. Yeah, but sometimes I have thoughts and I want to get them out Exactly. So then when I share them with you and you share me, your thoughts, now we have a conversation and now it's more of of like okay, I'm diving into your world, you're diving into mine, so I can voice my concern or opinion or what I like.
Speaker 1:There's different things and I think if you just do that for your book the Waiting Room, which is dope to me because the vision like I'm already seeing it, like you said, you was in a hospital, in a waiting room. The book on the desk said the Waiting Room. The floor on the desk, yeah, said the waiting room, yeah. Writing's on the walls, yeah, saying the waiting room, yeah. And that's a heavy way to put the concept because it's like you're right, we are in a waiting, we're in a waiting process. Yeah, we are in a waiting. Yeah, in a waiting process. Yeah, when I'm gonna get to that music exactly.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying when I'm gonna get to that when I'm gonna get to that that, yes, I finally made it exactly. But when I'm gonna get to that, yes, I finally made it on the podcast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what I mean and what is what's happening right. So when you get there, yeah, man, I got better because of this. I got better because of that. No, I got better because of the time that I had to wait. You know what I'm saying. How many no's, how many no's, exactly how many no's.
Speaker 2:Like the process, man, and I wrote about it in a book. The process is so important. Sometimes we do. We want that immediate life, instant gratification. We want that instant gratification. We want instant gratification out, we want to make it, we want to. But what, what like? But the journey that that got you to that place, man, is everything right.
Speaker 2:Like you know and I'm gonna go bible one more time man like david, you know, david was anointed as king when he was a kid. Yeah, after he was anointed as king, as a kid, he didn't go and start trying on robes and crowns, he went back into the field doing what he was doing, serving his purpose. You know what I'm saying. But if he would have stepped straight into that role, it would have killed him. He would not have been able to do that, man. So sometimes, when we have these big dreams or these big things, we're not even ready for it to be manifested, because we've got so much character building, we got so much process that needs to happen before we get to that place, and then he gonna let you know when you're ready.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. So I learned that too. Man, it's just don't be so in a rush. That's why I always tell my kids and anybody I was like yo, slow down, calm down. Yup, I was gonna, yo slow down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yep, I was going to do that.
Speaker 1:Yep, that's why he went tripping. Hmm, all right, back at it. So for the audio book, I would say, bro, just dive into it, record it, yeah, and if you need help, let me know. Yeah, and we. You know what I mean. You set it up and all you got to do is just read your chapters. How many chapters you got? It's eight chapters, eight chapters, yeah, okay, so it's going to be a nice read, yeah, like straight to the point. Straight to the point.
Speaker 2:Or straight to the point, it's only a hundred, a little bit over a hundred pages About two, two tick of a of a read yeah, cool, cool, cool.
Speaker 1:Before we get out of here, I always do gym class. Okay, gym class G-E-M Ooh, not G-Y-M, nice. So what gym or gyms you can give to the community, to the relatives? I call them the relatives.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:What's that? Relatives? You know the family, yeah, so the relatives. What can you give the relatives out there in life? Any gym that you think that can help them in their life?
Speaker 2:Let's see, man. First of all, don't eat the yellow snow. Second of all, um God first. Third of all, man patient in the waiting room. If you grinding for something, go through the process. Yeah, it'll make. It'll make the other side worse it's yellow snow.
Speaker 1:Don't eat the yellow snow that one got me. I ain't never heard that.
Speaker 2:Hey, bro, it'll save you. It'll save you a lot of time. Yeah, it's a bad breath, man, I promise.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right yeah, all right, yeah, so don't eat the yellow snow, don't eat the yellow sky. First, guy first. And and be patient in the waiting room, be patient in the wait. Okay, all right, cool bro, but like I always, man, I appreciate you for coming. Man, thanks for having me. Congrats on your new drop, your EP, life Before 16. Life Before 16. A waiting room book yes, sir, coming out.
Speaker 2:Yes, sir, when December 20th December.
Speaker 1:20th December 20th Okay so next Friday? Yes, sir, so next Friday, December 20th, the Waiting Room coming out.
