Relationships Worth More Than Money Podcast
Conversations about relationships being valuable and worth more than money! its a heartwarming podcast that delves into the profound value of connections, friendships, and love that transcend the monetary realm. Hosted by Tweezy & a diverse range of guests, including athletes, artists, entrepreneurs, engineers and everyday people, each episode explores the immeasurable worth of relationships in our lives. Through compelling stories and thought-provoking discussions, the podcast inspires listeners to cherish the bonds they share with others, reminding us that the wealth of a meaningful relationship is far more precious than any currency. Tune in to "Relationships worth more than money" to discover the true treasure in life.
Relationships Worth More Than Money Podcast
Love, Legacy, and High Hopes: JoJo's Journey of Resilience and Storytelling
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What would you do if love meant defying societal norms and breaking generational curses? Join us for a heartfelt episode of "Relationships Worth More Than Money" as we welcome JoJo to the mic for the first time. JoJo shares the extraordinary journey of her biracial parents, whose love story overcame significant resistance and set the foundation for her deeply held values. From her mother's humble beginnings in South Carolina to her father's Italian roots in New Jersey, this episode explores the power of love and resilience, highlighting the eventual deep bond between JoJo's mother and her paternal grandmother.
Have you ever felt the joy and complexities of sibling dynamics or discovered an unexpected talent through the support of a mentor? JoJo opens up about the unique challenges and joys of being the youngest sibling in a family with older sisters and her desire to nurture a younger sibling. She recounts her serendipitous journey into high jumping, a path transformed by the belief and support of a dedicated coach. This segment underscores the invaluable role of mentorship and the importance of seizing life-changing opportunities, even when they seem daunting at first.
What does it take to transition from journalism to storytelling while balancing multiple career paths and personal growth? JoJo's Emmy-winning work and her passion for storytelling come to the forefront as she discusses her shift from journalism to a more intimate form of storytelling. She also shares insights about her involvement in the family nonprofit, Willing Warriors, and the complexities of balancing a career in government contracting. We delve into the nuances of personal growth in relationships, the appropriate reactions to disrespectful behavior, and the delicate balance of supporting a partner's dreams. This episode is a testament to the enduring impact of love, mentorship, and the value of relationships over material wealth.
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Speaker 2:Wonderful.
Speaker 1:All right, cool man, we back Episode 21.
Speaker 2:21.
Speaker 1:Relationships Worth More Than Money podcast. Wow, I'm Tweezy. Who do I got to the left of me.
Speaker 2:I'm JoJo and 21 to me sounds like a very significant number. I don't know the meaning to share right now, but I'm going to look it up. I feel honored to be here right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I know, jojo, you like been super, super shy staying away from the camera, but you always behind the camera Very much and I appreciate you for jumping on here and getting down to whatever we get to. But first off, let's talk about the family, like how it all started mom and dad.
Speaker 2:Wow, that's a great introduction to this podcast because from the outside I know a lot of people think that it was a lot simpler than it was. I am the product of a biracial family and my parents got together meeting at a mailbox, so talk about divine alignment. My mom grew up, she's one of 11. She's actually child number four, so my grandmother was one who was pregnant for 99 months. Jeez, just thinking about that alone, you know, the older I get, I realize we are not normal, like we are really cut from a different cloth, like for real. My mom's from Charleston, south Carolina area, pineville specifically Grew up in a trailer, shared a bed, like she. She describes it as with that many siblings I mean they're sitting diagonal, like when they're sleeping at night yeah um, working in the fields, going to school, going to church.
Speaker 2:Um, my dad grew up in New Jersey and he has one sibling, he has a sister and his dad passed I'd say pretty young in terms of the reality that I never got to meet him Italian also. So you have the dynamic from white and black, which, of course, as we know hopefully everyone knows who's watching this at this point that that was not a normalized thing back in the day and still today it's something that may or may not, you know, have an effect on a parent.
Speaker 2:But at that time, when my parents met and my dad decided to, you know, say I want to marry this, this woman, um, there were many people in his family who were not okay with it at that time right and his mom being one, specifically my grandma and you he decided to do what a man should do when it comes to leaving your family and creating that legacy that it is that you want for yourself and your life, and so he broke that generational curse of knowing that there was a greater calling for him than living in the limitation of. I don't want to be with this person because of the color of their skin. So my parents ended up getting married. His family did not come to the wedding. However, a beautiful thing bloomed from that, because it was a testament to how real and true love is right, and love is the only recipe or medicine for healing and mending anything facts it really is true love, should I say true, say yeah love, is love, true love.
Speaker 2:Yes, and so you know, my parents got married. My grandma, after my mom had Kendra, you know, was just like all right, you know I want to. You know I want to meet, you know, my granddaughter and I only know this because of certain stories that aunties and uncles tell you too, and parents tell you bits and pieces and the older you get, the more that you learn.
Speaker 2:but I remember one of my um my aunts told me. She said you know, the first time that you know your mom really put her foot down with the whole situation was when your dad was going to bring Kendra to go meet grandma and she was like you're not going without me. And so Kendra and grandma and mom and Poppy all met and my mom and my grandma ended up being the best of friends in the whole world.
Speaker 1:Crazy how that works.
Speaker 2:It's a beautiful thing and only God can do that. But it was a beautiful and amazing thing Even just seeing years later she passed away at 94 years old but to be in her 90s and have a conversation with my mom just walking down the driveway you think about how much life has gone on since then. But she still remembers the significance of that choice, of not allowing her to love on someone because of the color of their skin. And she literally just grabbed my mom's hand one day when they were on a walk and she just said I'm so sorry, like I'm so sorry, that I ever treated you that way.
Speaker 2:And you know my mom being the person that she is, she sees so much more than anyone's flaws. She sees the humanity in people. So she knew that it was only a matter of time, because sometimes people who have hesitations about anything in life they just don't know enough. You know what I mean, but you spend enough time and you learn a lot and you realize that people aren't as bad as you think. And so that was a beautiful thing to just see that love can change a heart of someone, can change a generation you know what I mean Can change a soul, and so yeah, like that's how we all came into this world on undivided terms, if generational curses weren't broken, should I say Right?
Speaker 1:But I think to me, I think without that happening, like we wouldn't be here today, because that's kind of like how we met, you know what I mean? We met just you always had love for everybody, like you. Kendra, I didn't meet Kel to like a year ago with Kadeem doing that. I'm like man we do got a third sister. I'm like okay, I see Kendra, I see you.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:But yeah, man, it's just seeing you and like you, always being a life of the party, always bringing people together. It's just seeing you and you always being a life for the party, always bringing people together, and I can see now it all makes sense, like how it tied in from your grandma and your mom and your poppy the pops yeah, he's super cool too, by the way. Yeah, super cool. How was the childhood growing up with your sisters, though?
Speaker 2:Oh, that is a great question.
Speaker 1:Because, you know, I got two girls, you got two.
Speaker 2:Listen, I'll say this I love my sisters so much, I would literally die for my sisters. Let me just say that I love them so much Growing up. However, comma, I think having three kids, or I think having an uneven amount of kids is just a little bit difficult, and I only say that as a third child because there was a life established before John and Michelle Dominic.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And that was Kendra and Kelsey Yep, the K and the K, the Virgo and the Virgo, the August 26th and the August 31st.
Speaker 1:Kelsey a Libra.
Speaker 2:Kelsey. Yeah who my sister? No, she's a Virgo.
Speaker 1:Oh, you said August 26th, I'm thinking September 26th, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was about to say like no, no, they're both Virgos, so you got two Virgos.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm. So there's this relationship of siblings and sisterhood that was established before I came into the earth, before.
Speaker 2:I came into the earth, right, and also I was born breached. I was upside down. Okay, I was a problem from the beginning, in a good way, though Right Just took a lot for my parents to realize that. So they had this relationship and as a younger sibling, you know, I'm growing up and I'm trying to like be part of it and it's just like, okay, they playing with the toys, they doing this and doing that, they see John come, they're like, oh my God, we got to go, let's go, john is going to come.
Speaker 2:That's this time or do whatever Rightfully so, because I probably would, but it was. It was beautiful and also difficult at the same time because I always felt like I wish there was one more Like. I wish that I had like another younger sibling. And it's funny because I said this growing up so much and now that I'm older I see why I have such a nurturing, loving spirit and I wish that I could, like you know, like gravitate or pull or, like you know, love on, like someone. And you know, I never had that younger sibling that I wanted to just like hone on and like take with me on the journey. So it was just more so of you know, the younger siblings, like early 30s now done that because I feel a lot of motherly roles that I'm playing now for both my older sisters.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I love every part of it.
Speaker 1:And TT role.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, exactly so. It's beautiful to be able to like show up in a way that I can't in my own essence, because I don't have my own kids yet. Yet I feel like I do they, just they're not from my body and I don't have them. 24, seven. So, there is absolutely a difference. But the love and care and tenderness that I that I so into my, my nieces and now my nephew, you know, is nothing other than what I would do if I had my own.
Speaker 1:Okay, Well, I remember. I don't know where I was, but I seen that you was. It was a picture of you in a track. Oh wow, In a track outfit. I don't know where we were at. Um, when did you? When did you jump into track?
Speaker 2:that's a great question too, because most people know me because I went to college for track. But really I went to um college for track. However, comma, I grew up doing literally every non-competitive sport. I did swimming, I did golf, yeah, um. I did cheerleading, I did track, um, and you know great experiences. Track was something that in high school you just see everybody do it so. So it's just like, yeah, I want to do that.
Speaker 2:And so my sophomore year I did try out for the track team. I made the track team, but I was doing hurdles. My neighbor at the time, benita Mosley, she was an Olympic gold medalist in the hurdles and so that kind of inspired me to tap into whatever that world was like. I didn't know, but I tried out and made the team for that and you know, I ended up sucking at that. I was not very good. And then one day there was like a dual meet, which meant every event that they had in track and field there had to be at least two people to compete. We only had one high jumper at that time. Shannon shout out to Shannon. We only had one high jumper at that time. Shannon shout out to Shannon. She was high jumping. And then they were like you know, just go for it, because I'm just, I'm a free spirit and I'm always asked a question even if the answer is no, because the worst anyone can say is no, and if it doesn't work, it doesn't work, and if not, on to the next one. So I tried out for track, did hurdles and I got asked to compete in high jump one time. At this time I had no idea how to go behind the bar. So they said just like jump over, like scissor kick, so that's just like one leg up, one leg over. You ain't doing no arch, you ain't doing none of that, just keep it simple, baby steps. That's how they did it back in the day when they started doing high jump. So I did scissor jump my sophomore year of high school and ended up being really good at it at that one meet. And so that one meet going into my junior year they're like you need to focus on high jumping now.
Speaker 2:So in between that summer of my sophomore year and my junior year, my friend Virginia Hill I will never forget, because my life is so different. It's crazy how one person can change the whole trajectory of your life. Yeah, if it was not for my friend Virginia Hill's dad, coach Hill. I still talk to him to this day. Um, I wouldn't have gone to Virginia Tech to do track. I wouldn't have gone to Maryland to do track.
Speaker 2:He saw something in me that I didn't see. In to Virginia Tech to do track. I wouldn't have gone to Maryland to do track. He saw something in me that I didn't see in myself, that my parents didn't even know how to identify because they don't know anything about this sport. And we spent that whole summer in between sophomore year and junior year. He taught me how to high jump the right way with the J, with the going behind the back, all that, and he really was like like you're a six foot jumper, you're a six foot jumper and you think about high jump? Most girls are very tall. I'm a tall girl, naturally, like on a day-to-day, but when it comes to that sport I am very much not tall at all, exactly, and so it served me well. Up until you know what I mean, a certain point, olympics is just like crazy, because those girls are like six something and they say that you are pretty much identified as a good jumper if you can at least jump your height.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:So I got up to jump 5'9". It's like my record so far. Well, I'm going to say my record period, because I ain't been backwards like that in a long time. Don't know if I will, because it might need a massage after that.
Speaker 1:All right.
Speaker 2:At that time in high school I got up to jump 5'5", which still to this day is the high school record, and I graduated over a decade ago. Wild, wild, damn.
Speaker 1:I'm old A decade. A decade Shit I just had my 20-year reunion last year.
Speaker 2:Ouch, ow, it's right, it hurts. It hurts to even think about.
Speaker 1:It's crazy though, does time fly? Time flies, it really does. Yeah, like you never know, like what comes about where you going. But I remember y'all was doing a fan swap you, tim, mm-hmm, who else? Kendra, frank, frank the host. Shout out to Frank the host man.
Speaker 2:Shout out Frank. We're Frank at.
Speaker 1:Shout out Frank man, Wherever you at he in Tampa right, that's my dog man Him, anybody that he always recommended me to. They were always good people and that's one thing I can vouch for.
Speaker 2:Frank like that's a blessing. Yeah, if he say hey.
Speaker 1:I need you to meet him yeah, I need you to meet her. I need you to meet him. Yo, this dude do this. I'm like all right, cool. But he told me about you and he was like yeah, man, she, uh, she got like an Emmy or something and I was like what she got? An Emmy and she just walking around Manassas like like a regular, like you know what I mean. Like Manassas is a solo key. That is some like super talented people there and I'm like Emmy yeah like what you do.
Speaker 1:How did you? Get into videography photography.
Speaker 2:Yes, these segues are amazing.
Speaker 1:You like them, right? I was a recruiter.
Speaker 2:I love this. Okay, okay, marines.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2:So I, literally I was talking to someone about this earlier this morning. I was at farm brewery for my parents bike ride for their non-profit and someone was asking me, like so how did like, how did you get into this role like of taking photos and videos? Because, like you know, just your family is like I was just like no, it's actually like a lot more than that, because my parents don't do this at all. It's actually very interesting. All three of us, like my sisters and I, we are very creative in our own ways. However, it had to come from somewhere. You know what I mean. My parents do. My mom does like government contracting and real estate. My dad does real estate, and then you have me doing photo video. You have Kendra doing graphics and web development, then you have Kelsey making the most beautiful custom gowns for any occasion and have been all over the world, all over the world.
Speaker 2:Let me just say that, okay, talk about just touching the surface. And she is carrying her fourth child in four years. It's just very interesting because I was explaining to them that the way that I got into it was through an avenue that I no longer pursue, which is journalism. I spent six years of my life getting a degree in journalism four years in undergrad, two years in grad school, trying to find out if this is for me or this is what I want Right, and just to learn that I don't. However, comma, I utilize the good parts of what I learned on that journey and and I maximized on it.
Speaker 2:So I went to school for journalism, like I said, and it wasn't until my last semester, not even just the last year. It wasn't until my last semester of grad school, where I had Bethany Swain, the most amazing professor in the world introduced me to the world of storytelling, in a sense, because storytelling is a lot different than journalism, especially when it's done the right way. When it's done the right way, it's a very intimate experience with whoever you're interviewing or whoever you're interviewing if there's more than one and she challenged us that semester to produce a documentary on the opioid epidemic that was happening in Anne Arundel County. Anne Arundel County, maryland. Right, it was so bad at that time to the point where what?
Speaker 1:year was that.
Speaker 2:This was in 20, this was 2016, going in in 2017.
Speaker 2:And it was so bad to the point where they changed the drunk driver awareness boards to overdose awareness boards, which is something I wish that they would do in our county.
Speaker 2:However, this is a rich, royal county and they want everything to seem, as you know, as good as as it is.
Speaker 2:However, there's still a lot of issues that are happening in our schools and in our cities, too. But so we did a year-long investigation on the opioid epidemic happening, and one of the pieces that was produced by me and two other classmates at the time won an Emmy, and it's really, really a crazy experience because we were at the same Emmy that you see nationwide that happens between all these television stations, but we're just students, Right and yeah, so that's how we won our Emmy. The piece specifically that got recognized was the one where we talked to the police officer that was in the city and he just told us about what they were doing specifically, and he talked about how they are emphasizing so much so that they want to help these people to where, if your friend overdosed like if you come to me and you tell me you're not going to get in trouble Because a lot of people sometimes like they're seeing their family members and their friends die because they're too scared to say anything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so that was an amazing effort that was made, but that's one of the many pieces that we produced that year.
Speaker 1:That's dope, and then like but you went in that, Emmy, is that like? Was that like the start of you wanting to like do more storytelling, or is that like something you just like? Ah, I dabbled in that and now I just want to go do something else.
Speaker 2:Definitely the start of wanting to do more. However, the more has not truly happened To this day. I can't honestly say that I've produced something that I'm proud of. To that extent, I've produced short pieces, especially with Willing Warriors, my parents' organization of warriors, who have gone through hell and back literally, but those pieces have been like solo features. I won't feel accomplished to the point that I did in grad school until I produce multiple features on one platform. So, yeah, like that was a really amazing journey, amazing challenge, because I didn't really know what it even took to produce something like that, but now I do.
Speaker 2:I've been in the driver's seat before. I've been in the passenger seat before something like that, but now I do. I've been in the driver's seat before. I've been in the passenger seat before. There's so many moving pieces and so many moving components, and a lot of it is about being able to pull out a story from your character by making them feel comfortable too. There's not many people who are willing to talk about their trauma and their scars, and not from their past but from their current situation too. But when you can do that, you not only can heal like that person in their own way, but you can heal any. You know anyone watching or listening at the same time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think you kind of have a niche that you don't even know you have, but you have it. All these people out here, these are the people you can interview first. You know what I'm saying Get a YouTube. I want to touch back on to your mom and dad's. Is that a nonprofit?
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about it, man, Because I've seen you. I've seen Kadeem. You're always reaching out, asking people hey, who wants to do this job with me?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And you tell the price yeah, like up front. And hey, this is for this, this is what it is. I just need a videographer or I need a photographer. Got to be here at this time. Send me something. Let's talk about your mom and dad's nonprofit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so my mom retired from 20 plus years in the Air Force 20 plus years ago at this point.
Speaker 1:Shout out to the Air Force. Shout out to the Air Force. Shout out to all armed services.
Speaker 2:Shout out to all of them.
Speaker 1:Shout out to all of them.
Speaker 2:So we moved here when I was in fourth grade. That's when she retired and she's still to this day. She works more now than she did before this and you know I mentioned earlier she does government contracting and I have stepped into the role of trying to, you know, be her second brain and learn that and, to be quite frank, it's almost like Chinese.
Speaker 2:It's another language, yeah, the terminology, it's another language and I try to remind myself every day when I feel stressed. Got to give myself grace because it takes time. But she works a nine to five. She's in the rush hour traffic in the morning and at night. Know a nine to five, she's in the rush hour traffic in the morning and at night, um, and over 10 years ago she just felt called driving home one day like you got to do more.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like I want you to do more. And what was more was helping helping wounded and ill veterans. You know, whether those wounds were physical wounds or internal wounds. That's a lot of the things that we found, you know, since my parents started Wailing Warriors. A lot of the times, people with internal trauma are suffering just as great as someone with, you know, a missing leg or a missing arm. Um, it's incomparable. When you experience what it's like to give up your life for your country yeah and I'm sure that you know as a.
Speaker 1:That's why I got it right here. There you go sacrifice yes because I'm blessed to be here. But but I sacrificed a lot, sacrificed family.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So much.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But I was able to be there for my daughters when they were both born, so I think that was a plus for all of the stuff I've been through. But yeah, you, your mom, your dad, your sisters, they are always at these events and I'm like man I seen kadeem doing them a couple times and I'm like yo, this is dope, I gotta, I gotta be a part of it because it's it's for us yeah and you know I mean like I, I still have all my limbs yeah but I know it's people that don't you know?
Speaker 1:I mean, I know it's people that that go through it on a daily basis. So just having that out is super dope and I think think, shout out to your mom and your dad, but I'm also put the link too up under where we're talking, so they can. People can go check that out yes. And get it. You know, get in and donate whatever they can do to be a part of it.
Speaker 2:So what has grown over the past 10 years of my mom having that calling is they purchased a property on 32 acres of land. It was just one property and now it's grown to three different properties and it is a respite for wounded warriors and we don't like to say wounded, they change it to willing. Yes, because it was the decision that they made. And we want't like to say wounded, they change it to willing.
Speaker 2:Yes, because it was a decision that they made and we want to honor that. But it is an opportunity for them to have a home away from home. That's what they call it A vacation, all expenses paid. They have chefs from the White House that come and cook for them every week when they come. It's amazing, white House that come and cook for them every week when they come. It's amazing. And then we have activities that they can participate in, from helicopter rides to horseback riding, to having you know someone with kids just have bubbles and games and stuff.
Speaker 1:So that's dope Again. This is just the world of JoJo. Like you do so much for so many people and I always tell you, like yo, keep going, keep doing it, keep going. Let's get to um, I always do this segment yeah it's called um gym class, so not G-Y-M, g-e-m. I do this every segment, um of each podcast episode Gym class what's a gym that you can give to anybody, boy or girl, male or female? Some gyms that you know I can put in a toolbox to carry on with them?
Speaker 2:That is a great question. I think the first and most important thing that comes to my mind that I have experienced as a gem wish somebody told me, do not associate time with growth. I think that's one thing that has held me up in life dating life specifically is thinking that if I keep investing this much time into someone and if I keep giving this many chances to someone, and if I keep painting these red flags yellow and green after so many months and years, they have to change right, they have to be better you would think you would think, but it's what they do with that time that will reveal, you know, I mean the growth or lack of, should I say that exists in that person.
Speaker 2:Um, that is a gem. I think that will be beneficial for anyone to not just hear but to actually digest and receive and to live with, because, it's really true, you teach people how to treat you. So if you allow someone, after months, after years, you know what I mean of wrongs. Not saying anyone's perfect, definitely you know. Be intentional about seeing the humanity in people. However, comma, when the same pattern continues to repeat, you have to be real with yourself.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I know they're being crazy. I already know.
Speaker 1:Check a fool, so don't confuse.
Speaker 2:Don't associate time with growth.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Don't associate time with growth.
Speaker 2:Yeah, don't associate time with growth. Don't associate time with growth. Yeah, because sometimes, if that is the only mindset that you have when it comes to time, you will fool your own self. It's not them fooling you almost five, like almost five, six years, with someone thinking that, you know, after we went our separate ways, not talking for x amount of months and years, the rekindling was going to end in a different situation, and so I learned very fast too, because that's just how God moves for real, when, when they say, what happens in the dark always comes to light. I mean, there's a reason why I have it tattooed on me, because it has been shown to me over and over again how real and how true and how powerful it is. You don't have to go look for the wrongs that are done to you. It's going to be revealed, it's just a matter of time. So that's why I say that's probably the number one gem to date that I would share with anyone.
Speaker 1:Don't associate time with growth.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Big gem. That might be the best gem of them all that I heard so far.
Speaker 2:I love it, but look, we got a new segment.
Speaker 1:Oh God, tonight's conversation, yeah Okay, relationship debates.
Speaker 2:All right here we go, here we go.
Speaker 1:Your significant other tells you that they need some time off from the relationship to refresh. Would you be open to that Explain?
Speaker 2:Okay, that is a great question.
Speaker 2:At this point in my life, the answer is no, and I can definitely explain why, and I think that my answer prior to explains a lot of that For me.
Speaker 2:I feel like I'm very intuitive at this point in my life to where I know what I'm dealing with, whether it's through a family member or a friend or a job or a relationship, so much so to even when I see the good, bad and the ugly, I can still give you an answer of whether or not I'm in or not. And so if someone cannot look at me through that same lens and see my flaws you know what I mean, the highs and lows of me as a being and see my flaws you know what I mean, the highs and lows of me as a being then there's nothing for us to continue experiencing with each other. So for me, my answer to that is no. I'm at that point in my life where I know what I want and I know that I deserve to be with someone who doesn't make me question whether or not they deserve to be with someone who doesn't make me question whether or not they want to be with me. The lady's snapping fingers back there.
Speaker 1:Thank you, brother. All right, thank you. Next question A man is on a date with a woman and she is on her phone the whole time. Oh, when the check comes, he asks for it to be split because of it. Okay, is that fair Explain?
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Y'all good, yeah, y'all good, y'all good, they good yeah.
Speaker 2:So if I like how that explained, because of that.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:I'm very intentional on what comes out of my mouth and I'm very intentional on what I'm receiving. That's coming to me too. I take full account onto the things that are said to me or the things that I hear around me. I love that. That explained that. That's the reason why I feel like she deserves to pick up her part of the check for that Wholeheartedly. See, look. Like she deserves to pick up her part of the check for that Wholeheartedly See look, I wouldn't even tell her to pick up the split.
Speaker 2:That's so nice, you're so nice. Huh, you're so nice. Oh, I'm not nice, you're not nice. What's going to happen then? I'm a Virgo.
Speaker 1:What's going to happen? Then I'm dipping, I'm going to the bathroom. Now I'm out. I'm out because I mean, like, if we're on a date like yeah, you all on your phone, like I can't even get conversation with you, so like we're supposed to be on a date and having conversations, that's the best place to have conversations, ie not the movies and stuff like that and you, you all on your phone. Okay, let me help you yeah, yeah, let me help you yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2:I love that, don't be.
Speaker 1:Please don't be the person that I picked up, because if I picked you up, I'm out uber, uber, baby, uber, baby lift.
Speaker 2:Well deserved, well deserved, well deserved, that's true that's true I I have this tendency to be too nice but that's what.
Speaker 1:That's why I used to be nice as hell and I used to like allow a lot of stuff and like sometimes it's like I'm about to push 40 yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 2:I love that. One of the biggest lessons that my mom taught me is that, like sometimes lessons in life are expensive and maybe one time you were too nice in a situation like that.
Speaker 1:It was too expensive.
Speaker 2:And you swiped and you learned your lesson and maybe it took a you ordered lobster and not chicken.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying? Nah, yeah, you gotta go. You gotta go. Last one.
Speaker 2:Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 1:You don't believe. Your significant other has what it takes to make the dream they're chasing. To make the dream they're chasing to make their dream. They're chasing, okay, come true.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:It's been years of failing. Do you tell him how you feel? Explain.
Speaker 2:Gosh, that's a hard one because, like you, can put your all into a dream and it really is about the environments or the opportunities that do or do not open for you and what comes of that. So I don't know. That's kind of hard because you can see someone put their all into something and the opportunities that they're getting are not allowing them to excel in the way that you know that they deserve. But then there are situations where your partner is saying, oh, I want to do this and I want to be this, but you're really not giving it your all. So that's a little bit hard for me to answer on that one, because it really depends on what that person is putting into their day to day, and I'm talking mentally, physically, emotionally, spiritually.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm talking beyond the talk.
Speaker 1:It definitely got to be a conversation like, hey, let's have a cutoff date. Yeah, if you don't make it by here.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Let's move on the other part that's very important is if this doesn't work, then what? Yeah, and I think the other part that's very important is if this doesn't work, then what?
Speaker 2:Because at the end of the day, I remember, specifically for me, when it comes to to track and field and I'm sure it's the same for any athlete, or even anyone like in the military or whatever it is that you know so well you can do in your sleep. Almost it is that you know so well you can do in your sleep. Almost you have to like, if you said, that you're a spiritual person, you have to love God so much that you trust it's okay for this door to close, and then I'm going to move on and I'm going to be okay and not okay. I'm going to be better than this version of me that I know now doing the only thing that it is that I know I can do, even with me.
Speaker 1:That I know now doing the only thing that it is that I know I can do. Yeah, because even with me, like I've been doing music for 20 years and I was about to give it up. But I remember back then I want to say like when I was still married with Benita, it was like 08, 09. I had just got back from Iraq the second time and we have. I got stationed here in Quantico and we lived in Annandale. She bought me my first MacBook because she believed in the dream of me making beats and everything right. And then it just got to the point where she didn't say it but I could tell she wanted to be like yeah.
Speaker 1:Are you going?
Speaker 2:to stop.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I was still in the Marines, so I still had my main job and I had that as like it was a hobby, but it was something that I wanted to learn and get better at. So then when I got out the Marine Corps I was working at the AOC for the government and then I quit that and music became my main thing. So then by that time we was already going. And then I quit that and music became my main thing. So then by that time we was already going through a divorce. So it was like she like the hell.
Speaker 2:She don't really care.
Speaker 1:But at the same time I respected that because she was there putting up money for me to go to these. I was going to events to beat, battle against people, stuff like that, and I was still in the marines, yeah, and I always tell people have your, have your plan a, make sure you got a plan b. That's backing the plan a yeah or vice versa yeah so if you got a job, keep that job.
Speaker 1:It don't matter if it's wendy's or whatever. You get some income coming in so you can fund because because music is expensive anything you do is expensive. If you want to travel, go to these different shows.
Speaker 2:Waking up every day is expensive.
Speaker 1:Waking up every day is expensive, Because I was just thinking about it. I don't want to tell my age, but you know, early 90s gas was $0.89. It's like $3.50 now, and if you're in Cali it's like $7, $8, $6. You know what I'm saying? 50 cent, nah, and if you in Cali it's like seven, eight dollars six dollars. You know what I'm saying. So, yeah, yeah, you definitely have a conversation with that significant other indefinitely.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But you know that was the new segment, tonight's conversation. Shout out to tonight's conversation.
Speaker 2:I love that, and I also just want to give you your flowers too, for not up on music. Oh no, because look at how far that you have come, appreciate it. You know and shout out, to shout out to everyone in your past, in your present and in your future who is watering the seeds for you to continue excelling in it, Because I tell people all the time you haven't lived 100% of your best like life yet.
Speaker 1:Not even you know time. You haven't lived a hundred percent of your best like life. Yet not even you know at all.
Speaker 2:You, you just touching the surface maybe so you got a lot of life to live. You got a lot of legacy to live too, not just through being a father, but being a producer as well. A friend a podcaster a podcaster. Here we are right right and and you never know what that one day or that one podcast, or that one beat is going to do for your life. And that's why you can't give up.
Speaker 1:And that's why they oh, I keep them, I keep them up and I go back and watch them.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I even go and listen to them. Just sometimes. I just like I was telling CJ, like I just listen in the car and just listen to podcasts and books, audio books, because you never know Like it be that when you least expect it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So that's what, you know, I'm always waiting for, but, as always, this is Relationships Worth More Than Money.
Speaker 2:As it always will be worth way more than money. Thank you for coming. Thank you for having me, yeah, okay.
