When Roc Solo, the Hook God from Norfolk, Virginia, throw it back to the days of pretending to be the Temptations, you know we're about to get real about music and life. As we settle into a journey of melodies and memories, we uncover the crucial roles that relationships play over the quest for wealth, and the way our artistry has been shaped by the legendary sounds that echo from our childhoods to the present day.
Navigating the waters of fatherhood, our conversation takes a heartfelt turn, revealing how our daughters have become our greatest inspirations—and sometimes our most adorable critics. The influence of parenthood on our music leads to revelations about our creative processes and how we've recalibrated our ambitions to reflect the new responsibilities and joys that come with raising these little future leaders. In the same breath, we tease the behind-the-scenes creative struggle and excitement that went into perfecting our latest drop, "On Full's," highlighting the brotherhood and dedication at WMB.
Wrapping things up, we debate our top hip-hop artists and producers, chuckle over the unexpected physical statures of rap icons, and discuss how different cities have left their mark on our musical styles. We share stories of navigating egos in the business and how building genuine connections can sometimes overshadow the allure of a hefty paycheck. Join us on this groove-filled ride that's as much about beats and bars as it is about the bonds that make the music matter.
Relationships Worth More Than Money by Tweezy Kennedy & Marcus Alland
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When Roc Solo, the Hook God from Norfolk, Virginia, throw it back to the days of pretending to be the Temptations, you know we're about to get real about music and life. As we settle into a journey of melodies and memories, we uncover the crucial roles that relationships play over the quest for wealth, and the way our artistry has been shaped by the legendary sounds that echo from our childhoods to the present day.
Navigating the waters of fatherhood, our conversation takes a heartfelt turn, revealing how our daughters have become our greatest inspirations—and sometimes our most adorable critics. The influence of parenthood on our music leads to revelations about our creative processes and how we've recalibrated our ambitions to reflect the new responsibilities and joys that come with raising these little future leaders. In the same breath, we tease the behind-the-scenes creative struggle and excitement that went into perfecting our latest drop, "On Full's," highlighting the brotherhood and dedication at WMB.
Wrapping things up, we debate our top hip-hop artists and producers, chuckle over the unexpected physical statures of rap icons, and discuss how different cities have left their mark on our musical styles. We share stories of navigating egos in the business and how building genuine connections can sometimes overshadow the allure of a hefty paycheck. Join us on this groove-filled ride that's as much about beats and bars as it is about the bonds that make the music matter.
Relationships Worth More Than Money by Tweezy Kennedy & Marcus Alland
available on all streaming platforms!
Instagram: @rwmtm
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@RWMTMpod
Get RWMTM MERCH HERE!!!!! https://streamlabs.com/tweezydabeatterroristkennedy/merch
I Losing my faith and I don't know what type of hell I'm in. I be walking through my days like what the hell you been. I get my cup, I'm pouring up and I'm sipping sin. I'm giving in rough night on life like I'm giving in Losing my faith and I don't know what type of hell I'm in. I be walking through my days like what the hell you been. I get my cup, I'm pouring up and I'm sipping sin. Rough night on life like I'm giving in.
Speaker 2:You don't know about this trust Fave losing faith. Yeah, we here we live, let's go, let's go. Yeah, yes, sir, as always, man, welcome back to relationships. Work more than money. I am Tweezy, the host to my left who I got, got your boy Rock Solo AKA Hook God, we mean business. Yes, sir, we mean business. Got the whole gang in here with you. Yeah, you know Not even a whole cause. He said song. So he hit me and was like yo, bro, I got some of the team coming with me. That's cool. Yeah, say yeah, that's always cool. But look, man, what's good, bro, man, life, man being blessed, working, being a dad, that's part, that's number one, that's the best part Music man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, all that, all that, all that, yeah, so we met. What? 20, 2019? Yeah, that's been. This is some years. Been a minute Under the belt, spent a minute when I swear to that studio. I think, man, that studio has, like, a lot of people came through but the real ones stayed together. You know what I mean. Shout out to O, shout out to Benz O, take Off Music Group. Man, shout out, shout out, yeah, we come from similar backgrounds. But tell me where you from, bro, like tell the people where you from Originally. I'm from Norfolk, virginia. Yeah.
Speaker 2:They came from Shark City. Yeah, beach Boys shout out. You know 757, born there. That's that's home, home.
Speaker 2:You know I'm up here now, but yeah, norfolk, virginia, real, yeah, okay, what was life like back then, when you like in the 75? You know, you know how you living. I'm gonna say, like projects hood. You don't know that's hood, you don't know that's projects, right, cause that's just the way of life. So, growing up, you see some things, you hear some things, you know some things. Then you do something and that's literally what life was Doing some things, seeing some things.
Speaker 2:But I mean we just, you know, kept it moving. I got a big family too. So, you know, in and out of certain situations you got athletes. Yeah, you got the tough guy. We gonna say the tough guys. Yeah, you got the church guys, right, that's what I was around, pretty much everything Anything you could think of. I knew for a fact. I was around being in Norfolk and it was back and forth from Virginia Beach to Norfolk. Yeah, I mean, I'm in Norfolk, it's my grandma's, so I'm at grandma's house every second I get. Then I go to school out of Virginia Beach but then I go back to Norfolk.
Speaker 2:It was just a lot back and forth, but it's all 757. So it's all home. Where did the music come from? Like the music, the love for music Cause, like bro, when I hear your music it's like like what he can't do, like you know what.
Speaker 2:I'm saying it's like damn like he got a hook here. He hook. It's the reason why you the hook guy. You know what I'm saying and it's a reason why. But my thing is like how did that all start? You know, back to family. I got like my cousins, growing up with my cousins. They were athletes, like those athletes. My mom ain't really forcing me to do enough and I ain't want to do so. If I ain't tell her I want to play basketball, she ain't gonna make me do it and I couldn't really like man, I ain't trying to do that, but I'm the same kid, probably like what, eight Younger than that. Like six years ago I had a purple mic stand and a purple guitar cause I watched Purple Rain, wow, and I played Purple Rain just to sing the songs with Prince. You got a picture of that. I actually do. I sent it to me. I need that.
Speaker 1:We gonna post it on the joint. Yeah, I'll send it to you. We gonna post it on the joint.
Speaker 2:The guitar and everything and my grandma go to the thrift store. She got a fake Michael Jackson glove. This is just an all white glove with glitter on it. Yeah, I'm like so that, like Mike, watch the temptation movie like a hundred times. Yeah, me and my cousins, we all had different roles. I had to be Paul, so when he so you have multiple entertainers in the family. Yeah, we had Paul, though why they get you to go? Yeah, they always made me Paul. So, you know, towards the part of the movie when Paul was before he left, I was just like I had to send him the couch.
Speaker 1:Which one was David.
Speaker 2:Ruffin, my cousin. My cousin thought he was my older cousin. He had to be David. Ain't nobody come to see you, otis.
Speaker 1:That was the fairy line.
Speaker 2:And then we actually my other, my young cousin Ty. He was Otis cause he couldn't say anything, but he's like he's just gonna be Otis. Yeah, he the one that's trying to keep everybody together. Yeah, my brother was Dennis. He was like Dennis want a real temptation. Yeah, you ain't really part of this.
Speaker 2:So that stuff like that, that type of music Like to start off. And my mom I think she's the sole reason why I am who I am. That's her music choice. Mary J Blas DMX. That's mom, okay. So question 90s R&B or 2000s hip hop or 2000s R&B? I gotta go with 90s, okay, 2000s hip hop or 90s hip hop. See, it's hard. Cause X came like 98, 99, j and them all 98, 99. You know what I'm saying. All right, when they start bubbling, I'm gonna say 2000. Yeah, I'm a Wayne fan. Yeah, I know he been there, but I guess when he started to pop more Cash money no limit on that I'm gonna say 2000s, All right Cool cool.
Speaker 2:So you know, I'm gonna say 2000s. Cool, cool, so you say, your mom was the backbone of like you getting the music. Did she like sing or Nah? She just shout out to my mom my solo, we getting the card, and she just playing it comes to boom, it comes. And then before I go to school, so we in the car just Hurt up Wrapping and she like bye, it's like but I'm hype. And then she had her days where she just cleaning up. You just hear Mary.
Speaker 2:I said all right, and I'm just vibing with her Like you play Mary J Blatt. I'm saying in my heart out like I'm not gonna lie to you. I'm gonna sing, but that's all because I'm on. My father was a go-go, go-go head. I knew nothing about it.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Until I moved up here and I didn't know that was going to move up here I say yo, you playing this as I was a little shorty. Okay, cool, two pot, all right, cool, I got it. Everything start adding up, you know, like crazy. So after the childhood part, when did it like, when you started taking this serious? Like was it high school? I feel like I always been serious when I hit the gas. I became my freshman year in college. Okay, like 2011.
Speaker 2:I went to a Richard Blaine college in Petersburg like a little juco, right beside of a gym, you play sports. Wow, you just went to a juco, okay. Mom said I had to do something. Yeah, I was in the middle of the military man. Listen, pops gave me the same thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I only had two options.
Speaker 2:I didn't understand what he meant when he said you either enrolled or enlist. I understood when I graduated, yeah, so I was out there. I started taking more serious then, but I always I've been rapping since I was 10. Like legit 10. You from Detroit, right? Yeah, eight mile played a role in that. That's where I'm from for real.
Speaker 1:I'm from.
Speaker 2:East Eight Mile.
Speaker 1:Seeing the battle rap type and I'm like damn it's cold, ain't there be no battle?
Speaker 2:rap with us, right? I know that's what I wanted to rap for. So, yeah, it was for me, man. It was like Detroit, I mean Motown, yeah, no. So you know what I'm saying. Like, when you think about, like how you was saying, like you know what I mean, moms would be riding in the car, y'all turning up. You know what I'm saying. Before school. Just imagine, like riding in the car, like my grandfather or whoever, my pop, somebody taking me to school, yeah, and like I'm listening to all of that, and they literally like lived down the street from each other. Like you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Like Smokey.
Speaker 2:Robinson, and you know what I mean. Diana Ross, like all of these greats. You know what I'm saying, but yeah, here go the kids here go the kids.
Speaker 2:Come on in, come on in, hold the door, hold the door, don't let it slam. It's fine, got light. Good, go ahead, pause it. You can pause it. I still got it running. Say hi to everybody, hello, hello, hello, take your shoes off. Crazy, yeah, crazy man, crazy we good yeah. So yeah, man, like I was saying, just listening to those, the Supremes, michael Jackson's, jackson Fawze, smokey Robertson, all of them, bro, it was just Stevie Wonder. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Just hearing all of those people, those big names. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:All of them from the same, like they literally were around a corner from each other. Some of them stayed on the same block and just knowing that, just off of that Because that's what got my ear, you know what I'm saying when I started falling in love with music, it was that. Then the late 90s came Mid 90s, because my brother started putting me on like Tila Abar, mjg you know what I'm saying Three, six mafia, like I was learning all of these other regions of music at the same time, and like when the 2000s kicked off, it was just like, oh my God, you know what I'm saying. I'm literally going into high school. You know what I'm saying. Around that time, 99,. I'm a freshman. You know what I'm saying. I'm a freshman in high school, bro. So that, right there, bro, I think like to me, is where it all started, right? I never even thought about becoming a producer or anything until I graduated. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I didn't, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I woke up one day and I know this story because me and my mom talk about it I walked into her room. I said I know what I want to be when I grow up. She had no idea I was going to say what I said. I said not a doctor, I want to play football, what you want to be, then it's going to be a rapper. She bust out laughing. She said no, for real, you just I just woke up, I just crusty, I want to be a rapper. She was like all right, cool, like just cool, right. She didn't think, looked at my notebook, going oh you are you serious? Yeah, I want to rap.
Speaker 2:You had a composition joint. Yeah, of course, that's right. I was like go to, you had to have like three. Yeah, then they got freaky when they had the different colors. Yeah, I had a purple, bro, that rail, I had a purple one. But I just woke up and I just want I don't want to do nothing else. Yeah, I don't want to do nothing. Yeah, I recorded and I had a pen and aha, he know what I did. Most people all are real good rap. I Я that I just could buy that one. Yeah, it was a very great day. As I said, thank you, bro, because, like a lot of people don't know this, I was a rapper first. I used to rap, bro Cause, would you tell, would you tell that story? My first ever rap. I was trying to rap. I had the tape bro, you know the tape player. Just telling, telling my age had the tape player, what they were saying and then try to turn it into my way, like my words like trying to see what words match.
Speaker 2:And that's how I started writing first, like you know what I'm saying. And then when I joined the Marines or whatever you know what I'm saying I jumped back into the production because I played the drums from elementary to middle school and then, when I got to high school, just stuck with all the support. So yeah, bro, it's just that right. There is like those are those the moments where you figure out like how everything starts.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you don't know that, you don't know.
Speaker 2:So, so, telling them I want to. You know, I want to be a rapper. My dad, he said, all right, well, since you want to do music, you made me do band from the seventh grade. Try to graduate high school Band what you play. Start off with the trombone, okay, trombone, shorty. Try to trumpet. And then, from eighth to 12th, percussion triangles, bells, snare, bass, drum. Yeah, so I'm on percussion. Yeah, and people were like, using the band know how to read music? Didn't know I'm reading music until later. Like, I'm just like, yeah, that's a, that's a rush, yeah, two beats, they're like yo, how you the rock? I ain't know, it was a gift to read music, but it's something to my folks. Yo, I got a solo at the band concert. Yeah, that's what my teacher told me. All right, what's my solo? It was to, it was to ding the triangle, bro, that one part it was to. It was twice. He was like. He was like ready.
Speaker 1:Was it Christmas night?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was doing Christmas time. Yeah, the whole auditorium quiet and it go ding. He said I want to toss him.
Speaker 1:I said this wack, hey man we know it's like man, it's like wack.
Speaker 2:But that plays a role. Now I probably was a little upset about it. I'm like you about to clown me because I'm in the band. Yeah, I ain't really telling nobody I was in the band. Yeah, they'll say why you weren't in the suit like everybody else in the band for the concert tonight. I'm just like let's tell her to. I go to church after. Yeah, playing it all, playing it all Is that. You know, some people ain't.
Speaker 2:That's corny, that's the truth you lame, that's why I ain't doing it in high school and I fought myself for that and my dad was like well, you want to do music, but you don't want to understand music. He's talking to me like that you make sense, bro, but ain't nobody trying to be in the band. It ain't making sense right now.
Speaker 2:Then the parades, the parades that you got in the city. I'm in the parade in the band joint. You see me come across that joint. I see one of the homies, so I'm just marching Ding, yeah, but the triangle so, but all that plays a role still to this day. Right, hearing music? Yeah, I don't know if you've seen DOO, it's a DOO, I be posting them. Sometimes he do like he's a drummer and he plays, he drums on the pad and then he, he, how you guess, out of the four, the four like options, it's the notes, so to be like eighth notes, and then he'll give you a hint like hey, this, this little symbol, is a triplet, and they be like eighth note, triplet, triplet, triplet. Eighth note, eighth note, quarter note, quarter note. And then it's like which he plays it though.
Speaker 1:Right, right, right.
Speaker 2:So you got to figure it out. So this, like what you saying, that is like I literally hear it. Hear it again. I get the joint right and I'm like, oh yeah, I still can read, I still can read the music. Yeah, now I need to test my skills.
Speaker 1:I ain't ready, I send it to you and you always pop up on my Instagram.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I ain't ready to see the music like that in a while. Yeah Well, after high school you went to Juco. Then from Juco, were you still writing in, or so before Juco, I was writing in middle school. Then I heard Wayne say he don't write. So from ninth grade to 12th grade I did not write no music, I just always freestyle Because I'm like yo, my favorite artist don't write. So I'm not about to write. But he got more experience than me. That's why he said it how he said it. I ain't had that much experience, I had a little stuff. So, Juco, I met one of my close friends, miles, and we started doing music. He engineer produced the Coronary and he told me he's like bro, you know, if you write it down it'll make more sense, but you just freestyle. You saying this, you saying that. He said just try writing.
Speaker 2:So freshman year of college is when I started to actually take the writing part serious. So I did it, it made a little more sense. And then now I've been writing ever since. About 10 years of writing Could have been longer. But I said, wayne, that right, why I got it right, jane, right, and that was his. You know what I mean. Like that was their thing, though, but that ain't easy either, though that's not the fact that you can create a whole song in your head, bro. It's just crazy to me. It don't matter if you do the Wayne and Tori Lane way by saying a few words. Stop, come back, replay that part, go and say it again. Yeah, I did that part, but, jay, he would literally had a whole song. You know what I mean. One, take that joint. No, you know what I mean, but either way, you're still doing it from the top, but I think for me it's writing. You know what I mean. I got it, yeah now.
Speaker 2:The writing part is because now you're perfecting it, it's like you're proofreading. Yeah, you know what I mean, what you saying and I think what you doing. That, bro, it takes you to another level. Yeah, it does.
Speaker 1:It does.
Speaker 2:It's both ways. You know what I mean. And then it's so quick because I think we was I don't know when I pulled up on y'all and like bro, like the drink just came to you and he was just like, yeah, come on. Yeah, yeah, like that I still got that part. Like I ain't gonna lie, I freeze out to myself every day. I don't know it's a habit. He write that I'm talking to myself most of the time, but I literally, just like now when we just chilling, you say yo keep getting me the headphone here and stuff and I'm just like I just can't help it. But I mean that's the great part about the music, man. It's like we love music so much that you can't get away from it. You really can't. You know what I'm saying. There's no escape of anything, but it also keeps us. It keeps us sane, even going back.
Speaker 2:My mom could tell you this spelling test. She made me rap the words to remember them. You know you like music so much, but you would rap it as you spell it. So now I'm at school rapping the word to spell it. Hold on Like yeah, sure, freaky. Like Not rapping though Wrapping to that joint, yeah, she was like rap the words. It could be like a little spelling word spelling test that you had in elementary school, but it didn't click until I rapped it. But we're singing it and that's how the rest of school went.
Speaker 2:The way I studied is how I listened to music and everything felt in the place. She was like you good. I was like, yeah, I'm just in my zone right now. All right, let's change. Let's change the chorus man, uh oh, uh. Oh.
Speaker 2:You a father? Yes, you know what I'm saying. How does the everyday life work for you? When it comes to you know what I mean? Just being you Like, not even the music part, just being rock. I mean, at first becoming a father. Your whole life changes, like everything, how you move, even how you talk. Your whole schedule was around them. But at first I can say it was difficult, it was a challenge, but when I start my day, I got to make sure her day planned out from the beginning to the end before I make any move. So my life is, it goes around her life. Whatever she got going on is what I got going on.
Speaker 2:Your baby girl. How old now? Five, five, yeah, man, you just seen my little two man. She's a talking five, like she talks. That's my youngest, my youngest like that man. And it's good, though, because, at the end of the day, the bond that you build with them, that's going to carry, man. It's going to carry because they going to know what it's like to be around guys. One Right, because you going to build her up and show her the way. But at the same time, it's nothing like having that for a father. It's nothing like having that girl love man.
Speaker 1:And that's what new love.
Speaker 2:It made me look at women different too. That's a new love, and I think with that too is like mentally, those are my crutches. That keeps me going. Do you feel the same?
Speaker 1:way, of course.
Speaker 2:Because it's like you got to grind harder, you got to keep going. If you don't, I got two, you got one looking at you like Boy, that's what I'm saying. So even with everyday life, I hear her little voice in the back Like daddy this or daddy that. But even go back to the music she like daddy, we ain't going to the studio. I like your music. Your music is really good. She don't know too much about music, but it's the fact that she telling me that my music is really good.
Speaker 2:Play that song for rainy days and she's in the back harmonizing, not rapping, it's just her. It's like how you learn how to do that? That's your A&R bro. I'm telling you because my daughters man, they put me on so much music and I be like who is this? I never heard of this person but I love it and it's like when I play music for them, like Newlin, they love Newlin. Ever since I produced Newlin, I mean shout out to Newlin man, he made up. We had a whole Christmas album. We got a whole Christmas album out.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying? That's dope.
Speaker 2:We did that during 2019. That's when they play this every Christmas, they playing wishlist. You know what I mean. They playing this Christmas. They playing all of these songs because they know for sure. They know good music. Yeah, but the only thing, man, they the profanity police, though. I can't even.
Speaker 1:Like they playlists Every time we get in the car.
Speaker 2:It's their playlist. There's no cussing. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:That's a tough playlist.
Speaker 2:But the youngest should be sneaking some in there. She be out like she ain't know they ain't too much yeah. They be like jumping out the window. What's her buddy name? Bruno Mars. Bruno Mars, yeah, and I'm like you know it's the cussing version and she be it don't matter, because of Bruno, exactly.
Speaker 1:It don't matter, because of Bruno yeah man, just keep it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, keep that going, because that's y'all buying. She's buying what you with the game? You heard my oldest say, daddy, when this over with I'm playing, yeah, she on GTA. You know what I mean. That's the bond you create with them. You ain't got to.
Speaker 2:Like it's just the love overall, just different. It's different, bro. The five year old telling me how was your day today at work? That's it, it was good, it was good. Did you eat lunch today? Yeah, I was like, yeah, I mean. I'm looking at her like, yeah, I mean I ate today, bro, they already developed.
Speaker 1:Like it just developed. Yeah, they already developed, they're already three years old, bro.
Speaker 2:That's who they're going to be. Like they're talkative, that's who they're going to be.
Speaker 1:Right Like that's her.
Speaker 2:They concern. You know what I mean. All the way concern, all the way concerns. But that's the part that you know what I mean. That keeps us going. You know what I'm saying. She's definitely my motivation, yeah you got to. You got to have, because some people like bro, for real, like some people, don't have that motivation.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:And that's the thing I'm like yo, my daughter legit keeps me going, like you know, you have your days like saying that and she'll just walk up and just grab my hand and say what's up? You said nothing. I was just like all right, I'm sitting here, mad, I'm pissed, and she just happy just to grab my hand. I'm like all right, bet. Then I bounce back and then it's like what I'm at at, like what I'm at at. You know what I mean, and I think she know. When I'm in the little zone, I'm just going to grab his hand and I look at her like what you doing? She was like nothing. I was like let's go get somebody. She came like stuff like that.
Speaker 1:So yeah, my life is her life.
Speaker 2:I work for her. That's why I say I work for her. I got to man. Got to what we got here, bro. We got this merch. He asked me what size.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about it. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:He like what size you wear, bro? I'm like, you know, I'm in a gym. Give me like an XM, you know what I mean. But like we got merch bro, what's this merch talking to us?
Speaker 1:about.
Speaker 2:What did it say?
Speaker 1:on there.
Speaker 2:On Fool, on Fool On Fool. Let's talk about it.
Speaker 2:March 29th On Fool Rock Solo New single, biggest single of the year right now On Fool we. I had that song two, three years. We just the hook. We just listened to the hook and that one verse three. I'm like I don't want to put another verse on the team, like I think we should put another verse. This is a lot of back and forth. Oh, what you think it could use another verse and something like that, cause it ain't going to sound the same. If you record something three years ago, try to redo it now. The energy ain't there. So I just like I can't recreate that energy. Right, I can't do it as fast as possible.
Speaker 2:Did you recreate it? Oh, did I? I recreated it, and it's some more Now.
Speaker 1:I was like oh, I did it.
Speaker 2:All right, now I know how to tap back into that energy On Fool, on Fool. So who produced it? Cause I, I heard it. He said it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, come on, man, take it, I ain't going to gas. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:But that's right. Ain't nothing out, bro, for real. For real, like everything that I've heard. That you create, bro is just it's crazy.
Speaker 1:I appreciate it. You know what I'm saying I heard this.
Speaker 2:I'm like, oh yeah, this it, this, this, this the summer, yeah.
Speaker 1:This the joint for the summer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this might be the next couple summers.
Speaker 1:And that and that's how I sounded, but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So if it's, if it's the dreams and nightmares, that's what it's going to be. Yeah. I mean but it's the vibe, that vibe there.
Speaker 1:This is every this is on Fool's every season.
Speaker 2:Who produced it? Takeoff music group? Oh man, oh, and them did that. Oh big O man. Shout out to, shout out to O, shout out to.
Speaker 1:O.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm here. I seen when he was up here he said he said so little wild one. I'm here, I'm here.
Speaker 2:So yeah, on Fool's just one of those tracks where I like it's personal Cause I like to, I'm not one, I'm lit and I and I want to shout out to my cousin Darren, when he's lit, I'm like yo, you lit, he be like he alive, like now I'm decent, but that's his way of saying he lit, I'm there, I said okay, and the cup. It says on Fool's cup it's always at a halfway mark, but that's my on Fool's, like okay, the cup there, it's halfway, there it might be, it might be almost gone. I'm still. I'm still going to tell you now I got a lot in the cup, the cup. The cup will always be on Fool's and, as you can see, cup is definitely on Fool's. Everything is life is on Fool's. It's just my way of being lit.
Speaker 2:I'm at the lounge. I'm turned you lit I'm decent. So you hear the song I ain't lit. I'm decent. The cup on Fool's, I'm decent, I'm decent. The cup on Fool's, I'm decent. Like it's a little vibe, March 29th all platforms.
Speaker 1:Got a little video on the way.
Speaker 2:Yeah well, you're shooting that Everywhere, everywhere, so you're going to be on Fool's everywhere. I'm everywhere. Might be here, might be there Anywhere. Might have to jump on the plane somewhere, why not? Might have to leave the country why not? Let them know on Fool's how you feeling.
Speaker 2:Listen, I'm on it so look, I'll be in Cali at the end of this month, early April. Definitely going to, definitely going to. Hey, y'all need to listen to this. You know what I'm saying. Definitely going to push it, because that's my thing, bro. You got to check their cups too. Yeah, see what they cup on, see what they on, see what they sipping on. That matters too. Well, you know, just the heads up Marines, bro. We always on Fool's.
Speaker 2:See what I'm saying Always on Fool's dawg, whole world on Fool's. You just don't. Whatever your on Fool's is this song, is that Whatever?
Speaker 2:it is it ain't got to be drinking you shmoop. So look, in Detroit we call it on 10. Like I'm on 10, like, oh, this nigga I on 10 dawg, this nigga tripping Magic being on 10 and on Fool's Right, you're a tornado in this month. Might got to get a Detroit artist remix that. Why not Do it, bro, on 10 and on Fool's? Yeah, I hit up GT, I hit up some family, tell me.
Speaker 1:I hit them up, man.
Speaker 2:See if you dig it or not On 10. I like that, yeah, on 10. They be on 10 all the time. Whatever your thing is, whatever gets you going, that's your on Fool's, all right. So talk to me about the WMB dawg. What do you mean business? What do you mean business? That's the label, yeah. That's the family, that's my brothers, that's the model. That's the motivation too. Yeah, when I wake up, whatever I do, make sure I mean it. Whatever we do, make sure we mean it. It's always us Right.
Speaker 1:We.
Speaker 2:That's the we part, we Talk about it, we mean business. I mean at first, just a couple of friends all into music, all want to be successful, all want to do something. So we just sitting there we just chilling how we chill, and it's just like yo we making little moves. I don't know who said it First, somebody said it for sure. Yeah, man, we mean business. Yeah, say that again. We mean business. That's it.
Speaker 1:WMB.
Speaker 2:We mean business, and after that it just rolled. So you hear me say it a lot because without them but it's a true statement, though For anybody it's like business as usual, Team-wise, and it failed. Nba, right, y'all going to a game, y'all getting ready for a game. Yeah, y'all coming at the door to fool around. Y'all mean business, right, we mean business Every time, every time.
Speaker 2:So look, p, you had that hard ass rug. I didn't mean to ask you where you got that rug from. So they got a WMB rug. Bro, that joint fire when y'all get that joint from. All right, please do, please. That's the back cave. You're going to see WMB all over Different logos too, but that rug, that rug. We should have brought the rug.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that rug that rug hard, bro.
Speaker 2:Matter of fact, we bringing the rug.
Speaker 1:From everywhere, from now on.
Speaker 2:We had a little mission out Philly. We took the rug you took the rug. Yeah, we in the hotel On the joint, it's in the middle, it's in the middle. Yeah, yeah, we bringing that from now on the rug.
Speaker 1:Got two rugs. Got two that rug fire bro.
Speaker 2:Matter of fact, Kayla, Kayla be making rugs and shit and she made some cold ones. I'm like Kayla, can I get one? She like, yeah, yeah, I got to get one bro. You put it in a little space Got two, bro, you see it. Yeah, don't put it at the front door. No, no, no. It ain't even to be walked on. No, it's just, hey, just know. You got it. It's what it is. When you leave, you set up somewhere else, y'all roll the rug.
Speaker 1:Roll it up. That be the first thing. That be the first thing.
Speaker 2:That be the first thing, I sat down at the new spot.
Speaker 1:So what.
Speaker 2:Like even getting the rug, we rolled it out, laid it on and I'm walking and I almost stepped on it. I had to hit like a two step and I jumped.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's a rug, though it's kind of yeah it's a rug, but you know, like for us.
Speaker 2:We treated it as like if it's like a flag, you know a you know step on the flag, though Like you know what I mean. Like, don't do it. I almost broke my leg. I stepped on the rug. I said shit, that drink, bro. And it was set up, had that drink, perfect.
Speaker 1:When I walked in.
Speaker 2:I'm like oh this, these niggas really do mean it yeah Like they really do mean it Change coming soon? Yeah, that too, man Gotta get the whole thing the rug on full. The rug is on full the rug on full.
Speaker 2:The merch is on full. The merch on full. Where can anybody, where can they get it at? Y'all got it set up yet, or we working on it. I'm gonna link everybody all at once to where they can go get their on full merch as well. But that's coming. But you know we had to give you first, man, I appreciate it man, the first with it. You know, got the hoodie too. You got the hoodie. Hold on, Come on, man, hold on. Yeah, I appreciate you, I appreciate you.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I appreciate that man, so merch is coming soon.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're gonna hook everybody up. All right, cool, let's get into a little round of Top 5, top 5 Hip Hop Artists Woo, top 5., top 5. Top 5. In order to just in general, how ever you wanna do it.
Speaker 1:I'm just gonna name them yeah.
Speaker 2:In order. I know Wayne on there, but you know yeah, so all right. So the four, I'm gonna give you. The other four yeah, I gotta go with the hometown guy Push your T. All right, it just makes sense. Three I'm gonna do DMX. Okay, shout out to my mom. Four Top 5. 50. 50. Get rich at that. Tryin' was one of the first albums that.
Speaker 2:I've been on the albums that I've bought. Yeah and yeah, 50. 50., 50. We have five. Oh, eminem, bro, eminem, I'm not knockin' bro, I'm not knockin'. Someone will argue, someone will argue, Listen to me man, eminem he would be. You know the main thing people be saying Ain't nobody ridin' around bumpin', eminem, you ain't gotta ride around in bumpin' Eminem, you know what you global. You ain't gotta ride around to him. He got people in other countries ridin' around bumpin' at.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm sayin', people will argue but yes, so Wayne, pusha X, 50. 50. That's a cold line up, that's a cold line up, bro.
Speaker 1:I'm just sayin'.
Speaker 2:I mean, and of course there's other artists that play their roles in my music those might go too. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:You know what's crazy bro.
Speaker 2:I didn't know Pusha was that short that bro, when I Bro, yeah, he's tall, like Super tall, like where's Galiva, bro? I thought Pusha was at least like six foot. But what I started understanding in the industry, bro, like they make sure that the camera angle makes them look tall.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a lot of Because Luda short. Yeah, I didn't know that TI short. I didn't know that Wayne's super short. Yeah, I didn't know Luda short, luda look tall.
Speaker 2:I thought Luda was like six foot six foot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, luda looks tall yeah.
Speaker 2:I forgot what club I was in in DC, like back in like 2011. And it was him at Sigh of the Prince. That's one of my low-key like sleeper artists, bro. He's. So far it was them two and I'm like man, this nigga short Pusha was in that drink, with the braids of course, and I'm like how that nigga Pusha, like that's that nigga, but you know, I'm like, because when you hear that music, he be like man, he be talking super crazy to niggas and shit.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean To be that short To be that short, but then I started thinking about it. He beefed with Wayne. I said, oh, they on the same level.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they on the same level they the same.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. I don't like that beef yeah.
Speaker 1:I hate it. I hate it too.
Speaker 2:But at the same time it's like. For me it's like whatever, bro, like you arguing about who had bait.
Speaker 1:Like you understand. Yeah, the situation is stupid. The situation is stupid, yeah.
Speaker 2:And it's like come on, man, you got two of the hardest producers. You know what I'm saying. In your corner, you got Tim, you had no, you had Yay and you had Ferrell. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, like Wayne, just was grabbing, you know, grabbing producers.
Speaker 2:All right, top five producers oh, it's out of my boy. Oh, oh, it's out of my boy. Oh, tim Ferrell Yay, I go with Dr Dre, yeah, like that, like solid, easy, easy, that's cool man. And then again, like I said, more producers that played a certain role, but them right there, what about? So you got on full coming, right, yeah, when the album come. I don't know if somebody on that train, the producer or other? That's crazy. I don't know who that nigga is.
Speaker 1:You know his name.
Speaker 2:I don't even know that nigga man, but you know of him, I know of him. Yeah, we, that's some crazy though Me and that producer they don't say his name.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we ain't got to talk about it.
Speaker 2:Me and him or got something. Matter of fact, we was listening to it on the way here. That's crazy. And the crazy thing about that track I was in the studio last week and I said, hey, let's drop that over this summer. So I got to reach out to them and see if it's okay.
Speaker 1:But man, and that was inspired by.
Speaker 2:they said, I think him and O told me that I was Wayne. How would I post the track? So, man, I think I think, when it come to like sound selection, yeah. I see myself as one of them dope producers that know how to select song, but we was on the same page, soon we got in the basement, though you know what I'm saying. So it was like when I heard that shit I said oh. I said that's the one he like, he like, yeah, cause he. Let me hear the whole album, yeah.
Speaker 1:Cause you again, you got a whole another album that's red. So that's how I was like.
Speaker 2:I was like oh shit, you got another single. Yeah, you got you know what I mean Losing faith. He got you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:So I'm like oh man.
Speaker 2:Roll out is crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I was like okay.
Speaker 2:So I was just like shit, do what you do. So the day that, all right, I say he's not a six, but he top ten for me, he is my top ten for me. So yeah, you talking rappers or artists, yeah, six. But no, he said, he said Jay-Z. He couldn't put Jay-Z in because he never really bought out.
Speaker 2:I never mentioned Jay-Z because I didn't listen to a lot of Jay-Z. Some people talking about it. I'm just like, okay, but you can't say rock, yeah, and I'm like the night cuz I ain't on fuck with Jay-Z. Nobody around me, maybe my uncle and them, but I ain't here, Like I'm 31. I promise you people lying that if they didn't say bow, I'll not be one of their favorite artists. They lying Bow, I was what we was rocking to. I promise you.
Speaker 1:Bow, I was wrong yo.
Speaker 2:I promise you, like kid wise, when nobody listened to Jay-Z, when, bow, I was out, for real, that was my ex. They lying, they lying, they lying. Now, yeah, bow, hey, hey, hold on Right right. Hold on you right though. But what age you start? You took your first drink before right. It got a lot to do with. You took his first drink at four. You took his first drink at four.
Speaker 1:So, Jay-Z so that Jay-Z part.
Speaker 2:I understand that. Nigga grow man Bro when he talk. I was like I said y'all got to know my brother background Bro took his first sip at four, so that Jay-Z, I understand you Right. I know why you say Jay-Z, I understand you.
Speaker 1:He was like, he was like hold on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We just uh, what's up, homies?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 2:That make a lot of sense dawg that make a lot of sense because uh Bro that took his first sip at four, yeah nigga, accident, accident, yeah Like.
Speaker 1:I said that was an accident. What was the buzz?
Speaker 2:why was it? What was it, bro? It was on my phone. I'm like time to fuck. That's all. Yeah, this is a good story. It was all you can drink, yeah. So you took one sip or multiple. Look, hold on, you took an ass on one. I came from downstate. One sip or multiple, yeah, one sip, and what else? What else? And then you said it again Two, yeah, that nigga's JZ for real, he was a JZ fan ever since then and his voice been like that ever since. Ever since nigga, his voice been like that. What's my man off of? Uh, what's that? The PJs that had that deep ass voice? Yeah, they can say this way's been like that since four years ago. But nah, bro, I mean yeah, like tip. You know what I mean. Tip, of course, wayne J M. Are you saying M just because y'all both from Detroit, or do you actually?
Speaker 1:listen to M.
Speaker 2:Or did you listen to M? Yeah, I listen to M on every album, every album, bro, because I'm like yo, this nigga's talking, wow.
Speaker 1:Like what's he?
Speaker 2:saying the world ain't he was talking about the thing though, when it comes to lyrics, bro, like I think like it's not too many people that can really fuck with M on a lyrical. You know what I'm saying, didn't?
Speaker 1:one of y'all say Benzino vs.
Speaker 2:Hart Nah.
Speaker 1:I said one of y'all, who do you?
Speaker 2:Not the Benzino. I said one of y'all said Benzino. Nah, bro, you know the nigga had a ghost writer, right, yeah, yeah, of course you can tell, you can tell, yeah. So but nah like, nah it was yeah, but my whole thing is it was so many, so many, so many artists that like influenced, like East Coast, west Coast, so like Q hard to me, like you know what I'm saying. Iceq yeah, if you listen to his lyrics, bro, but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:You think about it like this no, no, no, no, he not even rapping. But what I'm saying is like you stayed here in the 75, right, right, right, right. And then you been here for how long I was using Virginia, for how long I mean most of my life, Right?
Speaker 1:I mean, I spent some years.
Speaker 2:You said you went to Atlanta, right, yeah, the first six years of my life is in Atlanta, but every summer till I was 16 was in Atlanta too. So that played a role in my music too, because I'm hearing stuff that so you're hearing all Southern, yeah. But them songs I heard over the summer didn't come to Virginia until like a year later. Like I'm like I heard this last year, Like what's that song? Whoop Rico. You ever heard that joint? It was like a Atlanta joint, Whoop Rico, yeah. And then Soulja Boy did it two years later. I'm like y'all heard this at a skate rink in Georgia. See, that's the thing so like for me bro Like the music is different.
Speaker 2:I would never compare it. I had been around. So the thing about Detroit is it's super diverse in music Because of course we got Motown, then the 4.2.Duds and all of that. That shit been going on for years. We just finally getting put on. Is it Doug or Dude?
Speaker 1:It's like Dude, yeah it's like Dude Because I don't know.
Speaker 2:I heard him say Dude. Yeah, it's Dude. Yeah, so you know, you got Babyface Ray, you got my brother GT.
Speaker 2:Iceware, vezo. We went to school together. Iceware was one of my new favorite artists, so it's like you got all of them and Vezo was rapping like that. You know what I'm saying Since 9th grade, 10th grade. So let me ask you this question why Big Sean don't sound like that? Because Big Sean, he was really like. So Vezo and I weren't trying to be lyrical back then. Okay, big Sean was really trying to be lyrical, yeah, I mean he nice, I mean like the sound coming out. He don't sound like a lyrical.
Speaker 1:I like the fact that he created his own thing.
Speaker 2:But yeah, Sean from. But that's the thing, that's what I said. You got Sean. He from the West Side, I mean Vezo, all of them, they from the East Side, like me. You know what I'm saying. It's like everybody has their own sound and we been had it so like. But what I'm saying is like me at 18, think about it, Like how you was going to Atlanta, I was going to Pensacola every summer. That's a code.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my mom's out in the family. My mom used to live there. It's from there, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:And then my dad's had a family from Mississippi, so it was like I would go to Pensacola every summer and every even year I would go on a family reunion on my dad's side. So we have been El Paso, texas, dallas, texas, lexington, kentucky, so I was hearing all of this different music. And then when I turned 18 and went to Cali, got stationed in Cali that's a whole different ways, bro I was like yo, they still playing 50 cent in the club over there. That's the only problem that I had with the West Coast, like the West Coast DJs, bro, ain't hit no, nothing bro.
Speaker 2:I forgot. I think it was E40. E40 said an upcoming artist in California does not have to leave. California to be successful? They don't. They making like 10,000 a month just because of California. So off-route because look, san Diego look, san Diego to LA, about two, three hours from. From LA to Sacramento probably about six to eight hours. The California is so fucking huge dawg Like. The sounds is different, Like, for instance, like be legitimate.
Speaker 2:The reason why Oakland and Detroit have the same, similar sound of music is because they from like they got family that move, you know what I mean, but Snoop said that about his dad.
Speaker 1:Yeah same thing with Snoop when his dad moved to Detroit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, Snoop said he used to hang out, but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Like Oakland and Detroit sound.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can tell. You can tell like they got a similar sound. It's like identical. That's why I love the Bey music.
Speaker 1:But the beats too, though. It's that same, that same little tune, the same little percussion that they had in that drum?
Speaker 2:Yeah, because I thought oh this.
Speaker 1:Oakland.
Speaker 2:What's the old boy that had that song? He got out of jail T-grids. I thought he was from Cali. When I first heard of him, he put me on him and I was like who is this? I thought he was from Cali. Yeah, this nigga from Detroit. I said Detroit, yeah. Once I heard him say a Joy Road, I said oh, that's West Side. Yeah, he, I said not I thought he was from Cali, but yeah, but that goes to the producer. Hell of a. He's one of my top producers. You know what I'm?
Speaker 1:saying yeah, he got a lot.
Speaker 2:Bruh, he got a lot. He got a lot of production bro Now everybody catching on to it. I mean just from Doug Sada, baby, sada, baby, nice, I mean all of them. You know what I'm saying. Sada Baby he wild though yeah, doesn't he crazy, yeah he wild. All of them they come from, I mean the East Side.
Speaker 1:like most of them, I like it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sada, baby too. Yeah, Everybody got their own different sound. Bro, what day's the last Days from the East Side? She cold, she, she, she yeah.
Speaker 1:You know the.
Speaker 2:Eminem, one of Eminem albums. He put a lot of artists from Detroit up there. Yeah, it was heard, big Sean, but it won't Vezo in them. No, it won't, none of them, I think that was Doug. Sean's album oh that was Sean's album.
Speaker 1:I'm saying Eminem was up there and he had a little issue about that?
Speaker 2:Because Vezo, vezo, like he signed with QC. Yeah, vezo, like Vezo had a valid point. Huh, vezo got a point, though, like when you're in the streets and shit, like of course the street niggas ain't listening to them. True, trick is, but I mean, yeah, trick, trick.
Speaker 2:I mean, but at the same time, trick, trick from that era. What side are you from? From the West Side, where, yeah, so like when it kind of that. Like you know what I mean, you got, you got, you got different, different people listening to your music. Bro, it's never gonna be the. You know what I'm saying. It's not gonna be like cause I ain't gonna lie like a lot of my boys ain't listening to them.
Speaker 2:I just, I just love music so much that I was you know what I mean Like I was in tune to everything, and that's what I always say. Like, bro, I think my ears, my ears, definitely different to a lot of people. So I be trying to tell people I'm like hold on, bro, like give it at least three listens. So when I listen to an album, for instance, some albums, you know this shit hard, like, for instance, and then some you got to listen to it twice Cause I'm cause this. Here go a prime example Blue lips, schoolboy Q. Yeah, fire Out the gate. You know what I'm saying. I had meek joint, I hated it Out the gate. Which one? The heathenism, nah, that's. But I had to go back. Oh, I'm on the same.
Speaker 1:You know what?
Speaker 2:I'm saying you get what I'm saying, no.
Speaker 1:So I had to go.
Speaker 2:I had the first listen. I'm like this is why I don't. But, I get what you said, because I got mad, because I'm like bro, I'm thinking this is the album.
Speaker 1:It's only five songs. No, no, no.
Speaker 2:Right. So my, my, my mental was like, oh no, I ain't listening to this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. Then I was just like, all right, cool, I listened to it again and the whip on the way to the gym I'm like, yeah, this shit right.
Speaker 1:Look, the first, the first hey.
Speaker 2:Prince, the first track on that Meek Mill EP. He rapping right. Then he switched like to a melodic joint. I said raw. Yeah, I was so right there. I said oh yeah, every out. If you ever noticed his number one song he tried to read, I think he. I think the melodic part came from Vorey yeah.
Speaker 1:He on best with.
Speaker 2:Vorey, yeah, but if you hear that melodic twist, that's Vorey, yeah, Now he could write his own melodic joint. But come on, meek won't really know melodic. He definitely was. The first time he went melodic when he did a song with Nicki Minaj yeah, now he had Vorey, vorey. Hey, I know he going to, we going to, yeah, but yeah, nah, that's. I'm telling you, though, victoria, my God, yeah, free my dog. I ain't gonna say that I'm parking. Yeah, free my dog, free Tore, I ain't gonna say it. I know how politics is, yeah, but you guys, me in private, free Tore, I say that joint to you. Free Vorey, because I do. He that, god, oh, real Trick, trick. That's funny. I follow him on IG. Yeah, yeah, he funny dog.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because he an old head now, you know who's crazy, what you know?
Speaker 2:who is his, his cousin? Who Judge Mathis? No, you lying, I don't got. You know who Trick Trick is. Look up Judge Mathis and see where he's from. I know Judge Mathis from Detroit. They not cousins, though. Look it up, they first cousin, or just cousins. They cousins, that's crazy. Trick, trick. That's why he got way with everything. But was he not a real judge?
Speaker 2:He was the only one that was a real judge. That white lady want a judge? No, just Judy. Judy. Nope, oh you crazy. Nope. He said Judy ain't a real judge. So Judge Mathis Nah, we're in here, what's up? He said that Trick Trick you know Trick Trick, the rapper from Detroit, yeah, judge Mathis. So I was like is Judge Mathis a real judge? And he was like, yeah, but Judy not. I said hold up, brother, no, it's not like you told me. But what did he say? Though? You looking up, you ain't know, bro, I'm feeling some conversion.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so a lot of that shit messes me up because it was entertainment bro.
Speaker 2:But you know, we ain't find this out till now. I'm like I'm thinking. You know what I'm saying yeah, yeah, I don't know if I ever fucked the whole judge. Nah, I knew someone was fake. You could tell someone was fake. I knew he was from Detroit, but Jimmy Trick Trick cause it was crazy. Yeah, now look at that kind of behavior. Yeah, bro, I told you, I told you them, niggas, cousin, you back with the intermission. Come on, man Got the fight.
Speaker 1:That was a good intermission man, great intermission man.
Speaker 2:Yo shout out to my bro Khadim over there behind the camera.
Speaker 1:I appreciate you. Shout out to Roland Appreciate you, appreciate you.
Speaker 2:Wife birthday today.
Speaker 1:Happy birthday, happy birthday.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's get back to it.
Speaker 1:We already did the top five.
Speaker 2:We did the top five producers. We did the top five artists. We did the top five, top five, who. We do it. We definitely can do it.
Speaker 1:Top five top five.
Speaker 2:Top five, top five. We got on four, bro. We got March 29th, march 29th, we dropping it. Is there anything you want to talk about, bro? I mean, everything is on four. Like my mindset is just on four, on four, on four, on four. I just want people to know that I got on four. I just want people to know that the storm is coming. I let everybody drop their music in their videos, so they're already raining In their EPs. Yeah, now I'm here. The hood god is here. The god you know on four is here. Yeah, videos on the way.
Speaker 1:Oh, the visuals is crazy, by the way. Yeah, two visuals. Who's doing the visuals?
Speaker 2:We got. Ego on one visual Got our Ego. We got Adela Femmes, my brother, miles. On another visual Shout out, miles. Yeah, on four, look up On four. Like a movie yeah. It got like a how you going to do it. You going to make it like a trailer. It got like a TV series and then it got the movie. Yeah, like it's everywhere. Yeah, need the trailer, though Got to do the trailer.
Speaker 2:Trailer coming soon. We going to chop it up, see how that's. Yeah, after this I'll show you. Okay, you a little snippet. Yeah, yeah, man, we got history. We do music, we do talk family stuff. Where do you see music going from 2024 and beyond, as of right now? Yeah, you know, that's good, because there's so many different sounds. I mean you got people that say, oh, he's sound the same, he's sound the same. But me, being an artist, if you actually listen to two artists that you think sound the same, they know Right, but that's just me. You might feel different about it. But whoever you think sounds the same, don't. And the sound of music right now is all over the place. There's not one little sound you got Detroit Memphis is going crazy right now. Atlanta Memphis using Detroit beats too. You from Detroit, you can't listen to that, no.
Speaker 1:But I'm with it, though. I love it, I love it, I love it.
Speaker 2:Chile always going to have the on thing, but from 2024 and up, I ain't going to lie to you I want Virginia to be on top. Let's just go ahead and put that out there. I want VA to win. We got a lot of good artists. We got producers.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:The next time we had this conversation, even if it's years from now. Hey, rob, remember we talked about the sound of music, where you think Virginia got to be in that conversation. What you think it's going to take for it to get into that conversation. I let these egos go Too many egos.
Speaker 1:I'm not as I saw what it was looking for, because I know what, bro. I'm going to be honest it's just too many egos and I like listening to music.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to sit here and tell you oh no, I can't listen to them. I heard his music. Everybody got a different look. I call it a superpower, something that I ain't got. I'm like, ah, he rap like that, how she sing like that, or how. I think, bro, it's like, for instance, too many egos, right, a lot of egos. The issue that I see that I've been noticing is everybody don't want to claim the DMV until somebody asks you where you from. You know what?
Speaker 2:I'm saying yeah, yeah, but see, hold on, that's what I'm saying. You're saying DMV, I love the DMV. I'm just saying Virginia alone.
Speaker 2:But that's what I'm saying, so just Virginia, right, I saw when you, once you hit Richmond, it's like everything south they sleeping on. Then you come here, I moved here. I think what I got here? I got stationed here 2009 when I got back from Iraq the second time. I was in Quantico for two years. Right, I was trying to understand, like you know what I mean, virginia, right right, right, I was in.
Speaker 2:Virginia. Then I moved back when I got out in 2015, right, I was in DC. Then I moved to, I think, Manassas Park, like 2018, 2019. 2017, right, yeah. And that's when I met Frank Frank the host. Yeah, yep. And I was like yo like this is Manassas, Like, bro, like all these talented people right here. Bro, it's a lot, it's too many dawgs and you just and that's Manassas.
Speaker 2:You still got Arlington. You got Woodbridge. You got Woodbridge. You got Alexandria, you got Alexandria. You know what I'm saying? That's also. You said you was here. What 2009? Yeah, I moved to Manassas, 2008. First of all, from Richmond Down, we don't know what a DMV is. Right, you from the DMV, I'm from Norfolk.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You from DVN, I'm from Richmond.
Speaker 1:I'm 84. Peter's third.
Speaker 2:Like that don't exist. But why not from? Richmond Down is not part of the DMV, everything. What Is it, fredrisburg? You know what it's? Yeah, fredrisburg Spotsy, that's the V in DMV. So that's why I say nah, I scratched it. I'm talking about from, but VA period. That's it, because I don't want to say DMV, because 75, 7, 804, they don't consider that DMV and you just got to respect that. That's just a respect thing, because the sounds is different too down there 804. That's a different way.
Speaker 1:That's a whole different way, and I lived there too.
Speaker 2:They got their own thing. 75, 7 got their own thing. And then when you like, you said the DMV part Northern Virginia, it got their own thing. But, here's my thing to add on to that. When you say too many egos, I think not only is it the egos, but it's the uneducated part of it. It's the uneducated part of an ego that they having because they don't even understand the music business.
Speaker 1:For them to even have an ego to.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. To get to that point.
Speaker 1:A lot of them don't.
Speaker 2:And a lot of them even in studio environment. That part plays another role. You don't know how to be in the studio, right, the etiquette. Don't bring 20 people to my studio session, right? I just can't do this. That's just me. It'll be about 50 in one session, right, unless y'all taking notes. Or hey, brother, you should switch this up because you got an idea. I'm all good for ideas, right, if the family's there. Y'all got an idea. Okay, this sound like this. Would you try this? I'm good for that, yeah, but I don't. Yeah, it's too many. It's too many, it's definitely too many. And then it's like and that's how you rock? I respect that. I ain't rocking 30 in the studio. You can be outside, oh cool, yeah, but not inside. I'm saying, like the etiquette part that plays a role too, eagles like brought up, yeah. And it's like nah see, I got 20,000 followers, you got 2,000. I can't do it as long as, right, and that's another thing.
Speaker 2:Whatever, that means, the business again. That goes back to the business, bro.
Speaker 1:I see so many people with it.
Speaker 2:Because what can you do for me? You got 10,000. I respect that, yeah, I respect that, but you got 10,000 followers and I could be ignorant and say you got a million streams. You might not have a million streams, but you got 10,000 followers, but I wouldn't say that though, because everybody get it.
Speaker 2:But I've been told, no, I got too many followers to do a song with you. Got it Okay. Yeah, got it Okay. And that's the thing, bro. I think the ego in the business part is they educated on that part Collides, bro. If you understood what you can do with those followers, you can get so much further. But again, and I understand that, they don't even want to do the simple stuff of learning the business side of it, but then they'll be quick to run and say, oh, this person did me dirty, did me dirty, you know what I mean? Instead of knowing, hey, oh, no, that's not how you do it.
Speaker 1:You mean and I'm all for just learning?
Speaker 2:Yeah, we both don't know. Like, like, shout out to the team we made business. I'm glad I got them, though, yeah, and they ain't gonna tell me everything and I say this all the time They'll. Nah, I ain't it. You need that, though, and I never had that at first.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so my brother Miles, he'll tell me straight up this is terrible, but other than, oh, bro, you good bro, we should do a song together, but am I really good? Or you just want to do music together? Yeah, I need honest like, just let, let, let, let. You gotta be real with me, but we trying to create something here, yeah, so having a team is important too. Everybody don't have a team. Got to have a team. You just got to. Got to just go and record.
Speaker 2:You're probably the dopest artist in the city, but he's just by himself, and this is another thing too. So, like this lets me know if an artist or a producer is serious when I tell him to pull up. You get what I'm saying, because I used to be the artist. I'm not going to that and talking to the print. Brian going he be like it, hit me back and he break the whole situation down why I need to go. And then he'll end it off but you don't got to go. You just you, just you just take me. All this, that may sense, but it may sense, it may sense. And then the end of the text message goes you ain't got to go and I'm sitting there, that's how I know I call a tip, Bro.
Speaker 2:We got to go to this event.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's how I know it, bro.
Speaker 2:I know I get what you're saying the pull up part.
Speaker 1:I'm not going.
Speaker 2:Why would I know? Are y'all paying me, bro? I had literally me and Esquire bro. We had this team of producers and a few of them lived in Virginia, maryland, dc area and when I was working at the studio I'd be like yo, pull up on me. I got unlimited time. Yeah, pull up on me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know how many pulled up One.
Speaker 1:One.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying? I know, and he came from Waldorf. Shout out to Crazy Fingers and that's dedication. But that that lets me know who really wants it.
Speaker 2:Who really seriously and when I go to these showcases and stuff and I'm meeting new artists, meeting new producers. I just say pull up on me Because I fuck with your music. I like your music, but pull up on me. Are you willing to get the game? Are you willing to come in and see how I do things, see how I maneuver, how I move around and get some feedback from what I do? Are you willing to do that? Because at this point, bro, time is money. You know what?
Speaker 2:I'm saying and if I'm offering my time without no money and you ain't even offering to make that trip, you know what I mean. To jump in the whip and make that distance Just to talk, just to have a conversation.
Speaker 1:Not to record. I might not even record with you.
Speaker 2:Yeah. But I'm saying I just want to see where you at, just to talk, do you have your PRO? You got ASKAP or BMI. You know, I had a kid that you know what. He told me no, what did he say? He said, yeah, I got Distro Kid. No, you said ASKAP or BMI. But his answer was you got Distro Kid, and that's the uneducated part, right. So then I'm like all right, cool, you need more than that. You know what I mean. And then it's like all right, pull up on me. It's not funny, but it's just like that.
Speaker 1:But this is what happens.
Speaker 2:But I've been there, but I'm there and I'm still learning myself, and there's nothing wrong with that, because you know, like all right bro, I knew where I was at, I know where I am now and I'm still learning.
Speaker 1:I'm still learning. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Somebody asked me that years ago you got ASKAP BMI. I think I texted you. It's like what is this? Yeah, I got BMI, but I can answer the question now, but he's him saying this your kid, I probably would have said the same thing yeah, but that's what.
Speaker 1:I try to educate. That's just the real part about it. Yeah, I try to educate the youngest.
Speaker 2:But at the same time, bro, I can't educate somebody that don't want to learn, that don't want to. You got to want the education back, Like I ain't giving up free education. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, nah, I get it. So I always tell people, man, like, look, use the assets that's close to you, but also give back to the assets that provide for you. You know what I'm saying? That's so.
Speaker 1:It's like if I'm giving you a game.
Speaker 2:you get the game and you run with it. Just come back, and you ain't even got to give me no bread or nothing, but just acknowledge Acknowledge like what you got to that point.
Speaker 2:And I think that's what helped a lot of youngers out here. But some people don't understand that. You know what I mean. But we'll get them there. You know what I'm saying. We'll definitely get them there.
Speaker 2:So, look, let's get to the gym class, bro. Ok, let's do it Gym class. This is what I do every end of the podcast. Ok, it's pretty much, bro. Just what can you? What tools can you give another artist, another hook writer, another, anything, just a father, whatever? What gyms? One or two, three, however many you want to give? What can you give them to carry on and put in a toolbox? And this, this is me talking to upcoming artists, artists at home. The gym I would give to you guys is relationships are important. Yeah, and I'm not talking about oh, I follow him or her on Instagram. No, talking about conversations, about life outside of the music. Yeah, relationships are important, because you never know who you're talking to. Right, you could be talking to somebody that starts off 100 followers. Y'all just have a relationship. Two years later, that person has a million followers and hits you up like, hey, do you remember the conversation we had? Would you want to meet so and so? It could take you so many places, take you far.
Speaker 1:It could open so many doors Even in a workplace they say, hey, go to school, get your degrees.
Speaker 2:That's beautiful. Sometimes this is about who you know. Hey, you're a hard worker. You didn't go to college, but you're a hard worker, I know you're a hard worker, I know you. We got a relationship. Come work with me. Now you're making money that you didn't thank you. Same with the music A producer oh, that's my little partner from around the way.
Speaker 2:I got a song with Jay. You need a hook on it. You want to pull up? Why? Because I have a relationship. Business is business. I understand. Having a relationship matters. It's important to anybody. Yeah, that's a fact, bro, you got to have a relationship. Man, that's the whole point of this whole podcast, bro, because this was actually going to be one of my album titles. I had a whole poll like First Quarter, terraria Relationships Work More Than Money. And Eddie came up with Terraria and I was like all right, I'm going to beat Terraria, but I'm like why? He's like, well, you know the Terraria part is from your name, but he was like the red part is from Detroit Red and I'm like Malcolm X. You know what I mean. And I got nip on my leg.
Speaker 2:So that's tough my thing. My tap, once I finish my leg, is going to be nip pot Malcolm X and Huey P Newton or Fred Hampton, either one right.
Speaker 1:But that's what was going on on my leg and shit, I already got nip.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying. So I was like man, that's tough. He came up with that. I'm like that's tough. So remember the first album I dropped, the compilation drink was Terraria. Then I came with the R&B version, which was First Quarter. That's tough. So Relationships Work More Than Money. I felt like nigga. That's a oxymoron.
Speaker 1:No, literally, it's an oxymoron, like it really is what it is. It's what it is. If you know, you know Like you got to have relationships, bro.
Speaker 2:If not, anybody that's in the industry right now has a relationship to get to where they at. Man, I'm trying to tell you yeah, All because you're genuine. Right, you got to talk about music all the time. No, if I pull it to your studio session, it's not for me to record. If I just want to pull up and listen to you and your artist work, all right, bro, we'll catch you. Yeah, that's it and that's what I'm saying. So once I feel like they get it through their heads that it's not always about a transaction, I mean, it's just a conversation. A lot of times, I mean conversations can get you in other doors that you think you never will ever be able to get into, just by being genuine and just having those relationships being relationships.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying Like that, bro, I appreciate y'all for coming out, man.
Speaker 1:I appreciate you, man, we do, and we got On Full March 29th.
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