Southern Roots and Sonic Reflections with B.U.D.

When two old friends catch up, the air is thick with nostalgia and raw emotion. That's the essence of my latest heart-to-heart with BUD, who takes us back to the days of South Carolina simplicity that forged his musical soul. Our reunion stirs memories of how a chance encounter through Will opened a door to a thriving creative partnership. With BUD's deep dive into his country upbringing and his early flirtations with songwriting, we trace the outlines of passion and persistence that mark his footprint in the music industry. 

Grief can be transformative, and in an open conversation, I explore the seismic shifts in my life following the loss of my child. From mentoring wayward youth under the vast New Mexico skies to embracing family in the DMV area, my reflections lay bare the journey of growth and the renewed understanding of life's priorities. BUD and I navigate this terrain, recognizing the irreplaceable value of personal connections and the role they play in shaping our paths forward.

As we pivot to the beats of my upcoming music, "Speak Louder" signals the crescendo of personal revelation and artistic development. These conversations stitch together the themes of perseverance, the importance of mental health, and an enduring love for the music that continues to be our guiding star. Join us as we lay down these tracks, sharing the wisdom and melodies that shape our lives.

Relationships Worth More Than Money by Tweezy Kennedy & Marcus Alland
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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:32

Ready? Huh, yup, we have the Gucci. We love the Gucci, alright, cool.

Speaker 2: 0:37

Ready Play real quick because, uh, we're at like, we're at like, we're at like, we're at like, we're at like. What is the order?

Speaker 1: 1:19

All right, man, check it out. Look, we live, bro, we live. All right, look, welcome back to Relationships worth more than Money. Podcast I am Tweezy and to the left who I got, you got, mr BUD, mr Brother.

Speaker 2: 1:32

BUD baby, BUD, baby. Yeah, it was good bro, it's good bro. This is my first interview in like two years, so you know, I'm glad I'm, back.

Speaker 1: 1:42

It's been a minute man. It's been a minute man. Um, how did we meet?

Speaker 2: 1:49

We met because I went to the studio and met um Will Will. Yeah, will stayed right down the street from me Shout out to Will. My sister actually, uh, was getting her album ready and then she was like it's studio right down the street, let's go. So I went with her and then Will was talking and then I was like him and my sister finished business. I was like I'll do music too. And then I was like, if you need anybody, if you got any producers or anything that needs songs written or anything anywhere, I can help. It's like I know somebody and he sent me, you, yeah, and that's dope.

Speaker 1: 2:29

Yep, and Ever since man.

Speaker 2: 2:30

Ever since.

Speaker 1: 2:31

Three years ago. Goddamn three years ago. Was it no Two.

Speaker 2: 2:36

Bro, think about it. You know what it's 2024.

Speaker 1: 2:38

You know what? That's what I'm trying to tell you. That is kind of wild.

Speaker 2: 2:41

Yeah, it might have been like two years now Like two, let me see. It might have been like two years, almost two years. You been here for like two years.

Speaker 1: 2:51

Well, you been here like a year bro. Yeah, it's like a year and some change.

Speaker 2: 2:55

And then we met and then to tell him we used that to other spot, yeah, but it's been like it's been a minute.

Speaker 1: 3:02

It's been at least a year now. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 3:04

A year for sure, for sure it's been over that you put me on the Cut water yeah.

Speaker 1: 3:12

Cut water. Hey, man, I need my sponsorship, man, because Cut Water was Straight up.

Speaker 2: 3:16

You put me on this drink.

Speaker 1: 3:16

You was the first person to put me on that Heavy man, so look, man, tell everybody where BUD from, man, because I know where you from, so but they need to know.

Speaker 2: 3:27

Well, I'm originally from South Carolina. In the middle of nowhere in the woods, I grew up in a country. I'm a country boy at heart what city? It's called Pemptacle, and then my neighborhood. We call it Magmill. Yeah, so you know, every place got their own little divide. So my neighborhood is Magmill. So I've been born and raised in South Carolina, grew up in the country. So you know, my mentality is Try to do right by people and they'll do right by you. Yeah, so that's my whole vibe.

Speaker 1: 4:02

How would the upbringing in South Carolina Country as shit yeah, I seen pops on the ground the other week. You know what I mean Exactly Like? Take down trees, swap out of a.

Speaker 2: 4:15

A blade, a chainsaw blade. Yeah, I'm a straight country like that. I had pigs, had chickens. That's how I grew up. I didn't grow up in the city at all. My life is not urban, not urban at all.

Speaker 1: 4:29

It didn't get urban till when.

Speaker 2: 4:33

I thought I went to college. Okay, what college? South Carolina State Historical Black College, hbcu.

Speaker 1: 4:41

Shout out to HBCU. We support them, we need them. Bulldogs, right, bulldogs, bulldogs.

Speaker 2: 4:48

Yeah, I'll be D-I-N-N. Now we're Mii-Ike Champs.

Speaker 1: 4:51

Yeah, I'll be D-I-N-N-N in that bull game.

Speaker 2: 4:53

I remember that. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1: 4:55

Shout out to South Carolina State.

Speaker 2: 4:58

Well, luckily before that my mom always kept us going places so I kind of knew what stuff looked like, different cities and stuff. My sisters live in different cities growing up, so city life went foreign, it just ain't what I grew up to. So when I actually went to college I went to Orangeburg, where our state is. That was my first time being in the city living and then after that I then lived in a couple major cities. I went to Georgia, california. You know, kind of been all over.

Speaker 1: 5:33

Okay, when did you start the music journey?

Speaker 2: 5:39

So it's cliche. I grew up in a church, my mom sang, my sister sang, so started singing in the church and then my niggas started freestyling. I kind of jumped on that. So my first original song that I did, that was my song. That's probably like 11. Yeah, yeah, so music always been a part of my life and yeah, it's in my fabric, so I've been in the music here.

Speaker 1: 6:07

So what kept you going though? Like because from I can tell, like for me, like when I heard you when you first came through, I'm like yo, what if? Like what does dude come from? Oh, that's what I do, because it was like like you just went straight in the booth and just started recording Like you know what I'm saying, every beat I pulled up, you would just record and record, and record and record.

Speaker 2: 6:25

So I would tell you this goes, this goes, show my age. But you know, back in the day you could record yourself on boom boxes speaking to the little mic. So I started there, started recording on the boom box, on tapes, and then, just as the internet growing shit like that, you can just grow at the time you can get little mics and start recording. And I don't write music, I just come off the cuff with everything. So after the wildest repetition you do something so long like you. Just I can feel where she will drop, where it's gonna come back in, and it's just, it's like a second nature. So this is just work, to be honest, and I've been blessed to work with some amazing engineers, including you.

Speaker 2: 7:14

The first person that recorded me is actually since we ended the DMV. I actually used to come up here. My first original beat was from my homeboy Riep Soul Reaper. He made me beats. I met him in South Carolina State. I just come up here to Baltimore and stay on like breaks and just record in the city. So yeah, I got the tootalage from a lot of people, A lot of people. A guy named Chop when I was in Atlanta. Another guy, Mark Deuce, when I was in college, he actually showed me how to do vocal backgrounds and how to actually arrange vocals and kind of build upon harmonies and stuff like that. And then the late great Swiss, my bro, I passed, but he, speaking to him, the project, yeah, the project that we got coming out, just how he recorded me, kind of, yeah, blew me into the artist I am now so just walking into a studio, I just know what to do?

Speaker 1: 8:20

What's the name of that that I'm coming out? Is it Alma?

Speaker 2: 8:23

EP. It's an EP, ep, but it's a basic call. I didn't forget you, okay, and that's a frame of everybody that been supporting me. I know I stopped doing music for like two years, so that's for my supporters. Then there's for Swiss that he passed. That's those are the last records that me and him did and passing when he passed and then beyond. This is for myself. Man, I didn't forget, because when I stopped, my whole life changed, so it was a different, different type of BUD. Yeah, yeah, so just me getting back to who I am. So that's the project.

Speaker 1: 9:04

When did that sudden heart happen, though? Like around what time frame?

Speaker 2: 9:08

Pandemic. Okay, I was in California, uh, that stuff going on. I was in LA Music going and then life, man, life is crazy. Yeah, life smacked me in the face and it made me readjust.

Speaker 1: 9:24

Yeah, well, um what? The readjustment is that, when you like move back here, or Nah.

Speaker 2: 9:31

So what's crazy is I went through this whole journey. Be honest, if we go get deep, I felt like God was kind of punishing me how I viewed it, like I wound up going to New Mexico.

Speaker 2: 9:43

I went to the desert, away from everything that I wanted. I left LA where music and everything was. I just went to the middle of nowhere and, honestly, I felt like I was being punished. But then I felt like I found killing in myself there and went through some lessons and growth. Man, I think everything happened for a reason and we do play a part in stuff happening to us, but sometimes you get put in situations where it wound up better for you in the long run. So I think that's what happened to me. I went there and that's what I needed. The Mexico was what I needed. I thought I was going to stay there. That situation then work out and I came to the DMV. How long you was in New Mexico? I was there for like a year and a half and you just just I was.

Speaker 1: 10:36

Did you do any music there?

Speaker 2: 10:37

I did do music there and I met some amazing people there too. So I can't get away from it. But I just was. I was trying to do man work, so I felt like the music wasn't in tangent with that. It was actually counterintuitive. So I felt like I had to leave it alone, become a better man. So it was just. It was a turmoil situation, but the growth got me to this point and I'm better than I was then.

Speaker 1: 11:10

Like what's? What's some of the things why you was in New Mexico that you you kind of built and learn like how to be a man and like what's like.

Speaker 2: 11:18

Give me like a few things Like you know what I'm saying. I guess we're going to keep cutting through the layers. I love LA because I lost a child. So when I lost a child it kind of shattered my reality and that was the first time I had to look at myself like what's going on with you right now, in the present, my whole life. I always look to the future and it's like no matter what's going on in my present, I know where I'm headed Right.

Speaker 2: 11:46

But that situation made me look at the present and be like what you got going on. Like, yeah, you out here dream chasing, but like what tangible stuff do you have in life as a man? And it just shattered my reality and thinking because I had to be like you're right, as a man, you need some more work. So I went to New Mexico and I wound up working with juvenile boys. I wound up taking the program out there. So in that sense, I feel like you always get what you need. I lost my child but then I wound up having like 40 boys that I had to take care of and it helped me grow. It helped me be more firm in my thought process because I had people looking up to me and I had to be.

Speaker 2: 12:35

I had to be bud, I had to be well, I had to be reginal at that point Right, and it was like before I could be like, yeah, I'll do this whatever, and it was on my time.

Speaker 2: 12:45

But when you got people that, depending on you, you had to be accountable for yourself so you have to be accountable so that they can take direction from you because they dependent on you and they needed that structure, so it made me it just me in the position to be like you gotta stand on everything you say, because people watching you now and you ain't standing on what you say Like they're standing on business, they go lose faith in you. So, yeah, it was like being more firm and secure and what I'm saying and just knowing that people are looking up to you and depending on not that I ain't never had that before. It was just at this point in time. It was an actual job and it was like if you got, you can walk away from certain stuff in the regular world. This was something that I was deciding to come to every day. So it was like you got to be ready every day.

Speaker 1: 13:41

Right Now with those 40 kids man, like how many of them that you feel like kinda grasp your mentality and understood like what it's like and made changes for themselves, like did any of them become better?

Speaker 2: 13:58

A lot of the kids reached back out to me after they finished the program. I just this is what I can say. Man, I think consistency is the thing. So if you take a kid out of an environment, they can change, they can grow, but it's hard to go back to that same environment and not have that same support that you have when you was able to be somewhere else. So just, the reality is, sometimes if you get put back in the same predicament that you left, you can backtrack and I feel like sometimes the kids don't get a true chance, they get a break from a rough reality.

Speaker 2: 14:37

Yeah, they get a break, but then they have to go back in that and then I would just tell them like you got to make a decision for yourself, like I get it, cause I had teenage boys, so I'm like I get it. Whatever happened when you as a kid, you couldn't control but everything. Now you kinda you making decisions to do what you're doing now. So you gotta take responsibility and I feel like just to do that as a man. The more you take responsibility for what happened to you, the more you feel empowered and feel controlled to move and it don't feel so hopeless. I feel like a lot of people stuck in situations cause they feel like they can't control what's going on. But in order to control what's going on, you got to take more responsibility, and that's the cognitive disconnect that people have. They don't want to take responsibility because of accountability. Yeah, exactly that as a man. That's the foundation, yeah exactly.

Speaker 1: 15:34

So what with the New Mexico to DMV? How did that transition, like how you transition back here?

Speaker 2: 15:41

So I was like you know what, I can stay in New Mexico. It's cool out here, but no foreign type of vibe out here you like the country.

Speaker 2: 15:52

Yeah, it was kinda reminding me of South Carolina. It was a slow-paced thing, retirement type of vibe, the landscape looked different but the energy was the same. So I knew how to maneuver around that. But I had a situation come with that and it didn't pan out the way I thought it should be and I was just like you know what? I ain't from here. I'm gonna go on about my business.

Speaker 2: 16:15

I just try to pay attention to certain signs in life, like I feel like God do speak to people, like if you pay attention, you can see certain things happen and when it's time to go, it's time to go. So I just took note and I was like I'm gonna get out of here and I came from my nephew graduation Cause my nephew and my sister live here and my brother live here. I came for a graduation and then I was actually gonna go back to Atlanta. But I got here and I was like I just was taking care of kids I don't know and my nephew, his own man. Now I wanna spend time with him.

Speaker 2: 16:51

So I guess my whole adult life I left my family. So I've been away from my family chasing after music. So this is my first time being in an area where I can see my sister and my nephew every day. I see my brother every day if I wanted to. So it was just a different experience and I told my nephew I was like I'll stay till you go to college. And when he went I had a situation come up where I could stay and actually work. So I was just like I'm gonna stay for a little bit. Then that's how we wound up getting here Shut up the Neff man.

Speaker 1: 17:26

He's a little big man. He came over. He came over to the studio, yeah, to the studio. We was working on some music and he was just listening in on it.

Speaker 2: 17:37

Good kid, man, yeah, man, good kid.

Speaker 1: 17:39

How is it like being back around family, Like what's the most important thing when you be around family that you appreciate?

Speaker 2: 17:50

They presence. Man, I think for so long I was in the position that I just told myself you got to focus on what's in front of you, because if I thought about my family too much or what was going on back home, that'll make you want to go back. And I had my mind made up that I was going to follow my passion with this music, so I got to be thankful for the time I give it to them. But when I'm not there, I got to focus on what's in front of me, because if I don't, I'm going to fall and wind up going back home and then feeling the type of way anyway. But just being here now with them is just seeing how valuable that they presence is and being thankful for them. Because, again, I'm the youngest, so I didn't really grow up with my siblings anyway, because they was already gone by the time.

Speaker 2: 18:42

Yeah, they was already gone by the time. I was in a annoying little kid. So now sometimes just to look at my sister and be like damn, that's my sister.

Speaker 1: 18:52

That's my brother, yeah.

Speaker 2: 18:55

Because I didn't. It's weird, but it's just like I didn't see them that much, so it's like. But now I see them. It's like sometimes you had to realize that that's really my sister.

Speaker 1: 19:03

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 19:04

Yeah, like damn. They look just like my daddy. I know, that sounds stupid but my brother looked just like my dad. So sometimes it's just like I guess I lived in the world so much that I had to tell myself I was by myself, just so I could keep focused. That it's different now that I see that, that physically I can see that I'm not by myself, right? So yeah, it's a different, different voyage now.

Speaker 1: 19:31

Yeah, man, I mean you, you family. I tell people at a time, bro, like family is, is is very important, it's it's a very important piece and key piece to your life, but it also can be a terrible a terrible piece.

Speaker 1: 19:49

You know what I'm saying, but when you got a good piece of that family man that connects you and keeps you going, kind of motivates you to go out there and reach for the stars. That's what keeps things going, man. And the way how we connected you know what I mean Just offer like we'll connect in this. You know what I'm saying, and we've been tight ever since you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1: 20:10

We've been tight ever since and it's like you don't really get that with people. You know what I'm saying? We had that talk the other day. I'm like bro, like you just really have to go out there and just trust people as far as you can. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 20:21

You know what?

Speaker 1: 20:22

I'm saying, or like what you told me the other day. You was like it's, it's kind of your fault.

Speaker 2: 20:29

Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Go back to the rest of the building.

Speaker 1: 20:32

It's your fault Because he showed you who they.

Speaker 2: 20:34

People will show you who they is and you have to decide if this person will be a positive in my life or they go be a negative. And if you decide to keep them, whatever comes with that, that's on you, because you decided to let them stay right, right, right.

Speaker 1: 20:48

And I tell people all the time, man, like you have to. You can't judge the book out the gate. You know what I mean. Like, as much as I feel like I can read people, I still get them a chance to see where you going to take it. Because sometimes, man, like you never know, like I was telling my daughter the other day, I'm like, hey, like this girl might be going through something. You never know what she's going through and why she's so angry, and like she don't speak to nobody. So I tell that to people, I tell that to everybody. Like, look, man, you you can't just judge them off the rim. You know what I mean. But when they do believe it, when they do show you them cards, believe it. Don't try to put them back in the debt.

Speaker 2: 21:31

And I would say this on a like it also goes down to like what's their environment? If it's something that immediately that can put you in danger, yeah, you like oh, this person did this and let me go ahead and get away from this person. But in general, if you deal with somebody on a day to day basis, you kind of got to give people room to show you who they is. And once you understand who they is, you can move correctly around them. But and that's also coming down to being genuine, like when I meet people, I just I'm open. You can't make connections if you're not open, like a closed hand can't receive nothing.

Speaker 1: 22:05

So you got to be open, yeah, like close mouth don't get fed. You got to, you got to speak up, you got to say something, you got to reach out when you need to, when you can. But I think that's too like that Southern hospitality. You know what I'm saying Because my grandparents they from Mississippi, on my dad's side, and my other grandparents from Florida. So like me going down south every summer, you got that.

Speaker 1: 22:31

I understood, like you know what it's like to you know what I mean had a hospitality, but then coming back up to Detroit, it was like you hate you. Yeah, you had to be. People hate you, people don't want, people want what you got, but at the same time people also there to offer extended hand. But you just got to know who to trust.

Speaker 2: 22:50

Who to trust? You know what I mean. I think that's a test too. I kind of thought about this for a while too. I feel like in the country, because people so spread out, you happy to see another person.

Speaker 1: 22:59

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 23:00

You got everybody wave at each other in the country and stuff like that Cause you probably done. Drove like 10 miles and didn't see nobody.

Speaker 1: 23:05

Just to see, just to see one person, cause all you seen was land.

Speaker 2: 23:08

Yeah, but in the city like people were so congested and people on top of each other, so people already like got anxiety about that, so like stuck and be off putting some they in a rush to get somewhere.

Speaker 1: 23:20

Yeah, I mean, it's like it'll slow down.

Speaker 2: 23:22

When you ain't got no personal space, you already feel like life is on top of you. Then you add people on top of you. You can see how that can be like a combustible situation.

Speaker 1: 23:32

Yeah, let's get to this album. Dawg. This is the piece. Let's get to it, let's get to it. We had a debate earlier. Here we go, but we don't. We already won. The song is out. Speak louder is the one that's going. Everybody's going to hear it first, but when you going to drop it, the 11th on my birthday 311. Okay, so 311. So we got to go get the pictures. Yeah, we got to get the pictures today.

Speaker 2: 24:00

No, yeah, so it's a lot. So when y'all see this, this probably will be the outfit for the pictures. Yeah, so 311.

Speaker 1: 24:09

We can actually.

Speaker 2: 24:10

It's all happened in the same day. I didn't wear the same thing.

Speaker 1: 24:12

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So talk to me about the first track.

Speaker 2: 24:19

The first track is called High Goals. High Goals Basically it's just me speaking on the reality of things, just like where I was at, and me expressing the frustration and just the reality of my life. So it's a pretty upbeat tempo type of song and your boy rapping, snapping on there. So yeah, it depends on where you met me at in my musical transition. Some people know me for being battle rapping, some people know me for just straight rapping and then some people know me for R&B. But you know, wherever you met me at, this project will have everything to fulfill everybody palette. So High Goals is definitely a high energy song and I got them bars for you.

Speaker 1: 25:16

All right.

Speaker 2: 25:18

And then right after High Goals is the song that you deem to be what it is.

Speaker 1: 25:23

I didn't deem it. It was A, it was all hands Speak, louder Speak louder Speak louder.

Speaker 2: 25:31

Actions speak louder. You know it's a smooth track. It got vocals on there, go back to the harmonies and everything. So you know it's just a good vibe. They know sexual type of tension going on in that joint. But you know it's a banger.

Speaker 1: 25:46

Okay, so after Speak Louder what we got, we got Toxic, exactly yeah.

Speaker 2: 25:51

Now this joint, I feel like it showcases all my talents at its best. So it's rapping harmony all in it. It's a mid-tempo song. It'll get you moving, though, but it's one of them ones, for sure, it's one of them ones. And after Toxic we got Habitual Way, so that's another. So it's a pretty high-tempo song For R&B, straight singing in that song too. And then the next one will be don't worry. Don't worry, that's my favorite joint.

Speaker 1: 26:28

Your favorite joint, the one in Lost, the one that Lost, but it's still fired, though.

Speaker 2: 26:33

It's still a banger, but that right there to me is like an ultimate R&B joint. And then the last song is Don't Give Up, and that's a rap and a little bit of vocals in that joint too. The whole project is just a vibe. Just a vibe. It ain't me trying to hit you over here with a million songs, just something to show appreciation for all the people that have been rocking with me and to get my feet back wet. But yeah, your boy still got them joints.

Speaker 1: 27:07

So, after this EP, what you working on? You already got a six month, 12 month plan, or are you pushing this one?

Speaker 2: 27:19

I already had another project done. It's called New Life, so that is a thing too. And then we got joints, a bunch of joints.

Speaker 1: 27:30

Yeah, a bunch.

Speaker 2: 27:32

And then I got another project that I actually did out in New Mexico too, which is I know. I said I wasn't doing music, but again I wasn't doing it to the capacity that I was doing it in California and in Atlanta. The full clip, yeah. But again I can't get away from music, no matter how I try to fight it. Just now I'm back in there, accepting it as what it is.

Speaker 1: 27:57

Now how you feel with you back doing the music, man. How you feel mentally like where are you Like as far as your mental health? Like how you feel.

Speaker 2: 28:08

So I mean first of all, Not a mental health. I just feel like it is what it is. You just got to do what you got to do.

Speaker 1: 28:17

Yeah, I mean it's a lot bro.

Speaker 2: 28:19

Yeah, it is, it's a lot, but I mean when you sit now.

Speaker 2: 28:22

It is a lot. My mental health is my dad. I will give him the almighty praise Like just do what you got to do the thing that you don't feel what you feel, you just accept it and figure out how to make your situation better. So my mental health is good, bro. I'm loving the fact that I'm loving music again. Yeah, I don't think I, because at one point I did really feel like I hated it for a second, because I felt like I wasted my life this been my life goal the whole time and I feel like I made the wrong decision and that was pretty foolish of me. I just think I was in a space I ain't never been in before, right? Yeah, I was in a small loop and we back, so better than ever. Bud, baby.

Speaker 1: 29:15

BUD, baby, and what. I know what BUD stands for. I know what it means. What does BUD come, what does it stand for and when? What made you come up with BUD? All the names in the world.

Speaker 2: 29:30

All. Neither one what it stands for or where the name come from, has anything to do with me. Bud has been my childhood name. From my childhood it's like my oldest sister said when I came from the front of the house we go call you bud on the Cossack.

Speaker 1: 29:45

Bachel, that's a certain thing too, bro. Everybody got a nickname. Yeah, everybody got a nickname.

Speaker 2: 29:52

I'm a big Fabulous fan so when I started rapping I was like Fabulous, always spread spelled his name. So I was like I'm gonna spell my name BUD. And then, when I got into college and was doing music, my cousin came to my house. I used to record at home. My cousin came to my house. He was like you know what I've been thinking BUD can stand for. He's like stand for brought up difference. So shout out to my cousin Brojik.

Speaker 1: 30:15

I owe that all to him.

Speaker 2: 30:17

That ain't got nothing to do with me. Brojik different Brojik different yeah.

Speaker 1: 30:20

BUD baby. Yes, sir, but look, dawg, you do music. You grind, very family oriented. When do you make time for yourself? I barely get a hold of you.

Speaker 2: 30:44

I guess, when I sleep, when you sleep, Okay, how much sleep do you get? Depends on what's going on? It's like no, I haven't slept, I got to work. Let me try and tell people.

Speaker 1: 30:58

I came here.

Speaker 2: 31:00

Listen, I feel like, again, you just got to do what you got to do. I think me doing music and I had my moments. But life ain't really about us per se. It's about how we can affect others around us. To me, let me say that To me and I just want to make an impact around people, my life and people that I care about and people outside of that I just want to be a light. So I think I get my joy out of when I'm able to do stuff for people I care about. So that's my moments, but my selfish moments is when I do music.

Speaker 1: 31:43

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 31:44

And that's anytime I'm moving.

Speaker 1: 31:47

Word, word, top five Top five. Artists are rappers. Two top fives, two top fives, two top fives, all right, so top five rappers and top five artists or songwriters Rappers.

Speaker 2: 32:05

Let's just do rappers first. Dmx.

Speaker 1: 32:10

Is this in any order or?

Speaker 2: 32:11

just I'm not doing no order.

Speaker 1: 32:13

DMX.

Speaker 2: 32:14

fives DMX fives, cameron Lil Wayne, all time. Yeah, I'll say Drake, dmx, fave, cam Wayne.

Speaker 1: 32:31

Drake. All right, that's a dope line up. Top five. Top five R&B.

Speaker 2: 32:45

R&B or what you said just songwriters.

Speaker 2: 32:49

My favorite songwriter is Rico Love. I got to meet him, so that's been dope. My favorite R&B group is 112. Cupid was the song I got to work with them. That's really my biggest music accomplishment, I feel. I got to work with them. I could have met them on some fan type stuff or any type of way, but I met them in the studio and I used to want to sound like Slim and I'm in the studio and Slim listening to me, so that was a surreal moment. Jim Brown, over here, three, I want to say Joe, that's kind of hard for R&B man. I got a couple of the people that I want to go on there.

Speaker 2: 33:51

I'm going to do two interchangeable Okay, so they Trish Brown, interchangeable with Tray Songs, and then Usher or Be Like behind that. So Rico Love, right, because a songwriter, yeah, rico.

Speaker 1: 34:05

Love you. Top songwriter 112, james Brown Joe.

Speaker 2: 34:12

Trish Brown. Trish Brown interchangeable with Tray Songs, tray Songs and Usher.

Speaker 1: 34:18

So they five A, b and C. Yeah, okay, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool Cool. If you can give somebody we always do this to every episode we call it Jim class, not G-Y-M, but G-E-M what Jim could you give somebody out there that can help them in life? It don't even got to be about music, it can be about anything Like what's a Jim you can always use that, you use, I give it to him.

Speaker 2: 34:49

All right If you got conviction about what you're doing. That's how you know it's truly what you want to do, because at that point it don't matter what the odds are or what adversary come against you. You got a conviction that I'm doing this no matter what. So that will also give you the foresight and insight that this is something you really care about. Because the minute that we get hard and it's like you like, nah, this ain't whatever, you know for sure that that wasn't something you really believed in. So the minute that you find something you willing to go to war about, hold on to that. And then my biggest thing is take responsibility for everything that happened to you, even if somebody else do it to you. Look at it like what did I do to make that person feel like they can do that to me? Because, again, the more responsibility you put upon yourself, the more you have control and power to make a difference in your life. So those would be my two.

Speaker 1: 35:49

Okay, if you got conviction conviction and taking the responsibility.

Speaker 1: 35:54

Those two dope things, man. It's always, always like every gym class it'd be something different. That's dope, and it's to me it helps, man, like when you actually give a gym, because people come back and hit me and be like yo, darling, like this drink was dope, and I like this part. I like this part and the gym class always sit with everybody because it's something that you know what I mean People can take and use. Like you know what I mean, it's a two, it's just over in the toolbox, like you know what I mean. Yeah, man, we back, we back 2024.

Speaker 2: 36:31

March 11. I didn't forget you. I didn't forget you, I didn't forget you.

Speaker 1: 36:35

This is BUD, bud, baby, I am Tweezy and this is relationships worth more than money. And, yeah, like that, we gonna come back. It's episode 12 too, by the way, episode 12. Yeah, let's get it. Relationships worth more than money. Bye guys, bye guys, bye guys, bye guys, bye guys, bye guys.