When Queen Daveed, the powerhouse female duo composed of Danielle Joy and D Marie, steps into our set, they bring with them a whirlwind of stories from their evolution as a solo artist/producer to a collaborative force to be reckoned with. Their passion for creating music that's fueled by chemistry rather than currency breathes life into our mantra that relationships trump financial gains. Throughout the episode, we traverse the emotional landscapes of live music scenes across the nation, from the electric streets of DMV to North Carolina soul-stirring vibes, delving into the rich tapestry of their musical adventures and the close-knit communities they've become part of.
Navigating the music industry's turbulent waters requires more than just talent—it demands character, integrity, and a network of genuine connections. Queen Daveed embodies this spirit, emphasizing the significance of building relationships on the foundation of mutual respect and sharing anecdotes that illustrate the long-term impact of staying true to oneself. Our dialogue sheds light on the importance of communication and balance in professional and personal relationships, offering insights into how these artists maintain their harmony both on stage and off.
We wrap up the episode with hearty laughter and candid stories that resonate beyond the realm of music, touching on the complexities of teaching, the challenges of married life, and the quirky trials of navigating social media and personal growth. Queen Daveed leaves us with pearls of wisdom on the value of humility and the power of serving others, setting the stage for an enriching listening experience that's as much about forging lasting bonds as it is about the beats that bond us. Join us for this symphony of conversations where every note strikes a chord with anyone seeking to grow their relationships and their craft.
Relationships Worth More Than Money by Tweezy Kennedy & Marcus Alland
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When Queen Daveed, the powerhouse female duo composed of Danielle Joy and D Marie, steps into our set, they bring with them a whirlwind of stories from their evolution as a solo artist/producer to a collaborative force to be reckoned with. Their passion for creating music that's fueled by chemistry rather than currency breathes life into our mantra that relationships trump financial gains. Throughout the episode, we traverse the emotional landscapes of live music scenes across the nation, from the electric streets of DMV to North Carolina soul-stirring vibes, delving into the rich tapestry of their musical adventures and the close-knit communities they've become part of.
Navigating the music industry's turbulent waters requires more than just talent—it demands character, integrity, and a network of genuine connections. Queen Daveed embodies this spirit, emphasizing the significance of building relationships on the foundation of mutual respect and sharing anecdotes that illustrate the long-term impact of staying true to oneself. Our dialogue sheds light on the importance of communication and balance in professional and personal relationships, offering insights into how these artists maintain their harmony both on stage and off.
We wrap up the episode with hearty laughter and candid stories that resonate beyond the realm of music, touching on the complexities of teaching, the challenges of married life, and the quirky trials of navigating social media and personal growth. Queen Daveed leaves us with pearls of wisdom on the value of humility and the power of serving others, setting the stage for an enriching listening experience that's as much about forging lasting bonds as it is about the beats that bond us. Join us for this symphony of conversations where every note strikes a chord with anyone seeking to grow their relationships and their craft.
Relationships Worth More Than Money by Tweezy Kennedy & Marcus Alland
available on all streaming platforms!
Instagram: @rwmtm
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@RWMTMpod
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I'm gonna get my hair fluff.
Speaker 2:You got your hair fluff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm ready Whenever you are. Is this the intro? Ooh, you know what I'm saying, babe.
Speaker 2:What you know about it.
Speaker 4:I played at a little graduation party. Yeah, it really caught me off guard, though, because I felt like I was like everybody can see my cards. Yeah. I can tell what that person has when we flip over. So I mean if you can remember I was taking people out left and right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, check this out Every podcast. I do things differently.
Speaker 1:Oh, this is like the intro now, yeah, so I might just hit a song or something for y'all.
Speaker 2:But this time I'm not gonna hit no song, because why? We got too much history. We got too much history and it's only great, it's only right to have both of y'all. Just go ahead and just introduce yourself, because yeah.
Speaker 4:I was gonna say sing a song. I thought that was coming.
Speaker 2:I was gonna bring the keyboard out for you though too Okay, because I have no songs in me, yeah. But no man, y'all just did a dope intimate concert. Uh huh, Concert. I can call it a concert bro.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we wanted to be a concert for the people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a concert and did y'all get the video back yet? We?
Speaker 4:did we have?
Speaker 3:the footage.
Speaker 2:So that'll be coming out soon.
Speaker 4:Super crispy Capital quarter.
Speaker 2:So this intimate concert. I had a huge weekend Like I was super busy. Y'all know me, I'm always in the house. I was outside that weekend and I couldn't miss y'all concert and I pulled up and I'm like, oh, I remember this spot and I pulled up. And I was like so, Marcus Allen was he had a show there like two, three years ago.
Speaker 4:Okay.
Speaker 2:So I pulled up and you know, you know, show love or whatever, and uh, yeah, so when I came I was like oh yeah, this, this, this lit intimate.
Speaker 1:It was a good time, yep.
Speaker 2:Y'all put on a dope ass performance, Might I say. But uh, without further ado, the ladies are the hours.
Speaker 1:Take it away. Come on, we do it.
Speaker 4:All right, danielle Joy, we are Queen David together. Female production duo. How does it in the streets right now? Um right. Produce like he's.
Speaker 1:I sing and write. That's it About love, majority of the time.
Speaker 2:What's your name, oh?
Speaker 1:D Marie. I forget. You know we changed. You know I go by D Marie with him. We just started going by Queen David, so it's just a thing. Yeah, but I'm a D Marie.
Speaker 2:So so I get everybody on here. This is relationships worth more than money podcast, because I feel like, um, in order for you to get to the money, the relationship that you create and definitely get you to that, that threshold and more, but I feel like the relationship you have to value, it was only right to have y'all two on here, because what I call y'all y'all remember what I call y'all the female division, female division, and I swear to God, like because I never seen two women play instruments and sing the way y'all sing. You know what I'm saying. So, like it's not no cap to it, it's for real. You know what I mean. So I like I love seeing when y'all actually doing music, and you know it's, it's a a momentous term because why, oh, you like that word? Yeah, that's what I really like. It's a momentous, it is.
Speaker 4:But also I want to say give credit back Ever. Every time we try to do something together, we always come out with some type of you know product when you ask us to come in you know be on projects that you got going on every come to the studio. We always it's a good work environment. It is.
Speaker 2:I try to make it. You know what I mean. Like I'm me, you know what I'm saying. I'm a cool person, I'm laid back, I'm chill, like I don't never like want to be like angry or nothing like that Like, but y'all bring the, y'all bring the energy back. So it's it's like when you working with and y'all know we work with different people all the time and you get those different types of energies that just don't feel right. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Different styles? Yeah, different styles.
Speaker 2:You can call it different styles, but no some things just don't work. Some things just don't work, some people be weird, some sessions.
Speaker 4:Just don't session, right.
Speaker 2:And we, and every time we do a session, or if we just kicking it and it just become a session like it's always great energy, great vibes, and that's what I love about y'all. But I want to go back in time to where, when y'all first started. Okay, you know what I mean when y'all first started and when y'all first met. So there's.
Speaker 1:Back in the day, when I was younger than other. Okay, okay, no, no, no. I mean, we started in a studio and hit HQ and we're bridge, bridge and we met through a mutual producer, rob that I'll rob and he brought me there because he was looking for artists to write. You know, I'm saying for other artists. So I had just left the studio that it just didn't work out, so I wasn't there for me. So I came to this new studio, met Nicole.
Speaker 4:Okay, I was going by the Nicole, the Nicole, the Nicole and the Marie.
Speaker 1:That's yeah. I was like oh cool, but she didn't like me when we first crossed that.
Speaker 4:That's not a true story about. Let's be a little.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was saying so long, so we're short, we're in a session. They give me all these beats. I was like, all right, I'll be back tomorrow with with all of them written, you know what I'm saying. And I come back and it's like four songs. I'm singing them to the right. No, I was like, all right, flip's page Second one. No, I don't like that one either. What page Third one? I mean all of them. No, I said okay, I don't know who this girl is, who this girl is. But I was like I don't know how I feel about her.
Speaker 1:But she's going to think that I said it was happening over.
Speaker 2:How your version go Nick.
Speaker 4:All right, my version is a little different and let me set the scene a little bit prior to. I've been whole time just producing in the basement, right Right. Just got out of college, got me an iMac, got my different pieces, put something together, and so I got introduced to that studio by someone I was working with in the government, her husband on that studio. So I'm in there, I'm fresh, I'm green, like I'm just. No one's ever put words to my, to my right, but as a producer you kind of have your own feel in your mind of how you think something's going to go Right.
Speaker 4:And so when we gave the beats and then she came back with the songs in my mind did not juggle what she had given me. So I was like I don't think that's how I wanted it to sit, but how would she know that? Because it's not like I gave her like a melody or anything to go off. But, it just didn't sit well, but I was not like nah, that's crazy.
Speaker 3:I was just like okay.
Speaker 4:It wasn't anything harsh or aggressive. She's trying to make it seem like I was cutting it down from the first song in the note that came out.
Speaker 2:I just was like what year was this?
Speaker 1:I'm not good with years.
Speaker 4:I want to say like 23rd 13, so 10 years ago.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think we're talking about 10 years. Yeah, but more of a story like when we met. It was just we started out really as just business like completely business, that we decided to start working outside of the studio, just being and producing to see what we can come up with. She was really the only person that was serious, that was in that studio. And then our friendship our best friendship, came after that, just from working and always being around each other because of music, okay.
Speaker 2:So when did the time come for y'all to like move in together?
Speaker 4:That was down. That was a little ways down the road. We had done a single a project by then and it just the spaces. We had basically at that time set up two different studios and there was a studio in Fredericksburg and then there was a studio where I was in Alexandria.
Speaker 4:So we were back and forth between those two studios when the time came to basically put the studios together, work together, be in the same location. You know that's how we came together, but we were working basically just up and down 95 in those two different spots for a while we built up two very, very good studios to collaborate with.
Speaker 2:So with those studios, did y'all like put out any music that time, or y'all was just creating the song?
Speaker 1:I mean we have a lot of stuff in the vault still from those times between them two studios. But like down is one of the songs that came out of that. I mean did the whole of collection, the project collection, that might have all come I think that all came out of the two studios.
Speaker 1:You know, we actually created more music separate than we did when we actually decided to live together, the amount of music that we made separately was a lot more. But I think at that time, though, you know, like when you're growing with someone or with a group, it's like you got to do that groundwork, such that you can learn each other, learn your style, learn how the function around each other, and because we have two separate lanes, we don't cross the couple. So that's why it's kind of like perfect the way that we marry, because because, now that we know our knit is like we can make music like that we don't have to spend 12 hours in a session to create something. We know an hour into our own sessions, like nothing's going to come of this, or we just chillin', or we really got something and we made two or three songs.
Speaker 2:So it's you know, yeah, okay, so, with the back and forth from Frederic Berg to Alexander, what did you feel like was the thing to do for us? Like, was it R&B? Was it like, so, like, what was the genre that I really was trying to push?
Speaker 4:I know Dacia always writes about love. When I first, when I first met her, I was like, ooh, your boy's Neil Soul, it's giving me Neil. She was like, uh-uh-uh-uh, I don't do Neil Soul. And I was like oh, oh, my bad, I just smell like.
Speaker 3:That's a good place for you to sit.
Speaker 4:My bad. So we kind of ended up in the R&B like live music, Because we all, throughout that whole time, though, we were always doing shows. We were everywhere in DC.
Speaker 1:We went to.
Speaker 4:We met a lot of different people and they were like, ooh, your sound, your sound would be good and filling. So we went to Philly you know what? I'm saying we did Open Mic in Philly and we went to Atlanta, worked with people like we were just everywhere, literally everywhere Doing shows and putting together dance to do something.
Speaker 4:I was just last night when I went to the sneaker ball. I was around the corner from one of the places we did a show at one of the last shows we did with like a full band. It's a church that's like, painted with all the graffiti. Oh, it's um the right.
Speaker 1:Something about it, not a ramp. Something about a ramp. I don't know if it's a ramp. It's like the DC Art Museum or something like that.
Speaker 4:But, it's like colorful and graffiti. It's over in.
Speaker 2:I think like Southwest.
Speaker 3:But at.
Speaker 4:Baseball too. Yeah, National Stadium and all that. So it's over there and it's like one of the last places. We did a show at NBC and I was like oh. I remember being over here doing a show, but when we were separate, we were or we had those separate studios. We were always working, always, but now always performing shows and up a whole bunch again.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so like the live music and the R&B we were.
Speaker 4:That's what we was living at.
Speaker 2:That's dope. I didn't know y'all was traveling like that. I thought y'all was doing like more like regional, just in the DMV area.
Speaker 1:I mean, we ran that circuit crazy. We do know a lot of people in this area because of that, and I think a lot of artists should do that in whatever area they are, so they know people in their area. But we definitely fell back after. After you run the circuit so much, you try different things or whatever.
Speaker 4:But yeah, we go anywhere, anywhere, like especially me being at ANT and then being in the band and then being in TBS and KK side, like everybody is musically inclined, so it was like I'm on.
Speaker 2:TBS. Yeah, what is TBS? I was there, I was about to say TBS and KK side.
Speaker 1:What the hell is that the Aggie Cove go?
Speaker 4:ahead Aggie Pride, what you mean, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:You know TBS like you proud. Nothing like ANT.
Speaker 4:Aggie Pride Nationwide. Shout out to everybody that's in the Blu-N-Gold March machine loyalty, all that.
Speaker 2:That should sound like an insurance company. Slow down, gang, gang, gang yeah, nationwide, nationwide.
Speaker 4:No Aggie Pride Nationwide. Ask about it Like you be out here in the streets. You need anything.
Speaker 3:Be everywhere.
Speaker 4:But no, tbs, tobeta, sigma and Kappa Kappa Side. They're band fraternities, so it was like you have to.
Speaker 3:You can be in both, no, just one thing.
Speaker 4:Well, KK side is for, it's for the men, TBS is for the women, and so they're band fraternities, and you just have to be a part of the band at that college in order to be a part, and so at a lot of the black schools we hold that tight, real serious.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to get them to make me an honorary Golden Delight I would have been one of the girls' dance.
Speaker 2:You can see me doing that right. What they called them?
Speaker 4:The.
Speaker 2:Majors.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but Golden Delight's not just Majors. They're dancers and Majors, they do both.
Speaker 3:They take it up a notch.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Golden.
Speaker 4:Delight, that's the dancers at ANT. So they do both they twirl and they dance. So a lot of schools are separate, in different situations we do it all at the same time. But because everybody that I was around is in is Musically Incline, like once we got out of school it's like oh, you're in Charlotte. Like we drove down to Charlotte and did one of like we did a really good song with one of my friends that was in KK Style in Charlotte, and we pulled up on his studio.
Speaker 1:We worked all through the night.
Speaker 4:Put you to bed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, see, I would never release that now for me as an artist, but it is a fantastic song.
Speaker 2:But that's what it is.
Speaker 4:It's not what Secular all the music is you're funny.
Speaker 2:You absolutely right, but why you? Wouldn't put it out. Well, I need that Nah.
Speaker 4:I said the deep. It's a great song it's giving. Big Mama will put that out, OK.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Big Mama will put that out. That's a sync.
Speaker 2:We put it out for sync Like, put it like a movement or something.
Speaker 4:It's true, it's a solid record. It is a solid record and like my best friend that was, went to ODU. He was doing photography at the time. Yeah, I ain't older than me. Yeah, that's where I went. And he was doing photography and videography and so he followed us, like we picked him up in Fayetteville and then he recorded everything for us.
Speaker 1:How long?
Speaker 4:about the drive Don't forget that part.
Speaker 1:We started.
Speaker 4:We drove to Charlotte. We drove to Charlotte and then I was like, oh, we were headed to Atlanta. And I was like, oh, I'm going to pick you up If you'll do like video for us. He was like, yeah, I'll ride. You know, I have my two door, two door accord that I still have to this day. He bought six something he was in the backseat, stuff but the ride from Charlotte to Fayetteville I thought it was closer in my mind.
Speaker 1:Mind you, we were in the studio all night.
Speaker 4:We was in the studio all night. And then he was in the studio all night living the studio life, and so we drove out to Fayetteville to pick him up, scooped him up, headed down to Atlanta. He's stuck in the backseat, but we played that record for him and this is like we first starting off and he was like this is y'all did this. Yeah. It was nice I got some here. You know, when you have friends, the people that know you do stuff.
Speaker 2:but when they're like impressed and impressed about stuff.
Speaker 4:It's like because y'all hear all the stuff, I do so when something really like catch you, it's like, oh yeah, ok, that's what y'all doing, I like it, so Put your Debate is that record? That's one of the earlier records that we still had, why haven't?
Speaker 3:I heard it.
Speaker 1:We, you'll have an exclusive listening to this I can absolutely play it for you. Maybe, we'll send you a snippet too.
Speaker 4:But that's the record that's like on a hard drive. That was sent in an email that ain't never, made it.
Speaker 2:It's on a damn. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:So it's like I had to get it from him.
Speaker 2:And Nick got a bunch of hard drives.
Speaker 4:A lot of them.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:A lot of them. And they're inappropriately stored, so I thank the Lord every day that they ain't crashed him.
Speaker 2:That's right, because they will crash.
Speaker 4:They happy. I'm trying to get into the cloud, but yeah, the cloud, and switched up on this. It's got a lot going with you yeah, so OK.
Speaker 2:so North Carolina ANT, odu. I got all of this music and y'all going up and down the East Coast. Yeah. Y'all running up the East Coast tearing it up. Why do you feel that any artist that's trying to make it should do the same, like for us, hitting the open mic and the different shows and creating a? And did y'all have music out, by the way, when y'all was hitting these shows, or were y'all just performing a song that you already created but wasn't out yet?
Speaker 1:So before we linked together and became Queen David, I was always an artist, demarie, so I had music out, but the music that I had, I had a mix tape out and the music that I had was like, I hope, what the producers like, so always, so it was just like because at the time it's like I'll take anything and that's really where my pain got.
Speaker 1:Nice, it's because people are like, oh, I don't like this. I was like I bet you I can write to a Mickey Like you know what I'm saying, that kind of thing. So I mean we are. I feel like going after music is going to be a continual race.
Speaker 1:But it's at your own pace. You know what I'm saying and we're nowhere near where we want to be, but because we have connected with a lot of people in our area and know people up and down the East Coast, in the West Coast as well, you know what I mean. Like it's only a matter of time before something hits and clicks the way that we want it to. Yeah.
Speaker 4:Also like the name of the podcast hit me with.
Speaker 2:Yeah, lace of Shirts worth more than money.
Speaker 4:Ok, so it's like once we're up and down the East Coast, we got good at being in a room and figuring out who was really important in that room. Right. Because it's usually not the loudest person, it's the person sitting in the back. That's just they just making sure stuff went right.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm saying. So it's just like we went up to New York. Yeah, we went up to New York. Person of important.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we stood in the room and we figured out who was the person to get to know and we've been able to do that in a lot of rooms to build those relationships and be able to call on people that have all types of knowledge and understanding that, given the right opportunity, we'll be able to rely on that relationship. But we didn't build it from staying in the house, producing in the room, not getting out, not doing shows, not just connecting with people, because one of the people that engineered or mixed our album, the Collection, he's in Cali, so it's like we didn't get that connection just by Googling him.
Speaker 4:It was the word of mouth from a friend that I knew who moved out there, and so we went out there, we linked with him, we connected with those people, but it was all based on the relationship.
Speaker 2:OK, all right. So for artists, though, why do you feel like it's important to do that, to get in those rooms and do those shows and go up and down the East Coast? Because it's like your own version of a Chitlin circuit, like I was sitting in this room Right.
Speaker 1:I mean just, it goes up like your name. Your relationships are everything, your name and your character is everything. I literally got a call last week from someone that I used to sing with. It was a connection actually through church, and I have not talked to and shout out Dr Richard DeBrow. He is a highly like. What is it when they have a lot of accolades? Decorate, decorate, thank you. He is highly decorated in regards to music and orchestra, live instrumentation, all of this.
Speaker 1:He hit me. I haven't talked to him in years and he hit me up. He has some connections in television and they're starting projects. I don't know what those projects are, you know can't talk about all that stuff, but he said when somebody gave him the opportunity he mentioned me and brought me up because of the relationship that we have in our, in my hard work and your ethic. So to go back to that, it's important for artists, even if nothing comes from the show, even if nothing comes from the free thing that you did for this person or that person, paid or not paid, like your relationship with people is what's going to carry you. You know what I'm saying. That's going to let people remember you years later about someone like oh, I know that this person can do this or do that, so it's important to have relationships, like you said, they're way more than money, way more than money.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because it's a lot of people out here that's trying to do it the cut corner fast way and I think a lot of times the younger, the youth like I feel like they trying to just go smack at it, which is dope, Do it, do it your way, but stop trying to go at it for the money, because the money going to hurt you every time because you putting the expectation on something that doesn't have an expectation.
Speaker 4:Right and it's not going to last. It's just not going to last.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the money's not going to last either.
Speaker 4:It's not going to last and you can get it like. You can definitely get the exposure, get what you want quickly, but as quick as it comes, as quick as it's going to fall apart and especially if you don't have anybody fighting for you in the rooms and you haven't built up your business understanding on the back end of being able to do the music, you're going to get taken advantage of, you're going to be on an unsung Yo, I don't want you to be the next unsung. I don't want to be the next unsung.
Speaker 1:How many people going to be on an unsung? How many? I counted three.
Speaker 4:How many? I gave up everything just to get the one thing, and now I want it back.
Speaker 2:Right, I just seen one on. Shannon Sharp it's a pie cat. And Kurt Franklin was saying like how he he lost every. He didn't have nothing in the beginning because he said he was signing bad deals.
Speaker 4:It's the reading for us. You know, say y'all, let's just read. Let's take the time, don't let nobody rush you and if somebody and if you have to pay, and then take entertainment entertainment pay it up front. I don't care if it's $1,500 for them to read it. Got out to. I got a plug for y'all. Y'all need a lawyer.
Speaker 4:Get me up, keep those an entertainment lawyer, have them read it. Pay the money because the 360 deal is not worth it. You're going to get that 500,000 up front and then you going to end up owing everything else.
Speaker 2:And you won't be able to see it for like 10, 15 years, right.
Speaker 4:We're going to be begging for your master's back in 20 years, right? Well, I don't want that. I knew a shorty.
Speaker 1:that was that guy of payment from a song that he that blew up. It was like a number. I forget the final time he got his settlement check but it was 15 years later after the song and had to fight for it.
Speaker 4:Had to fight to fend for it and you know how sick that is on the inside when the song is going up right. And I'm getting nothing from it.
Speaker 1:You ain't on the recognition you ain't with them, it's just on stage. Right.
Speaker 4:And they asked you for another beat Right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:They didn't even pay you for the first one.
Speaker 4:That's crazy, ain't no way in hell you ain't giving them the second one Ain't the second one what? But it blew up the first time, so you just betting on it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but at the same time, man and that's the thing it's like when we doing music it's so hard to trust. You know what I mean, these individuals, because I know for sure if it's me, you and you, we doing a song, I'm like yo, send me your IPI number, send me that. Send me that so I can make sure I annotate. Put it on there Because, like I was telling in the other podcast, I'm like I might have messed up somebody's name, but that IPI number.
Speaker 1:Right, it's still gonna connect, it's still gonna connect. It's gonna grab you.
Speaker 2:At the end of the day, this is who you are, right, it's like your social security number. You know what I'm saying. But some people, man, it's just like you try to educate them. You try to educate them. And they still gonna hit that wall and crash.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, but you're gonna crash Like you. I mean, I've lost money, Not, not not Graves amount. Money. Let me be clear. But what I'm saying is is like sometimes you'll put money into a project this is what I'm saying and you're expecting a result and you might not get it. So that's what I mean by that. Yeah. No one's stolen.
Speaker 4:No one stole money Because I didn't know about that Because I read everything that I signed. Yeah. Ok, because when it says in all the lands, in all the universes, or in perpetuity, perpetuity, don't y'all. Take a second, Just be aware of perpetuity In all the lands in all the universe, do y'all know where the universe is yeah, because they say, if they go to another universe, they still own what you did in this year. That's so, people.
Speaker 1:If you go to Mars and it says all the lands in all the universes, you can still not make money in Mars.
Speaker 2:Right, they'll be bumping your song in Mars. You ain't getting no money.
Speaker 1:I'm just letting you know. Read your contract OK.
Speaker 2:Please, and it's and that's. I think too, that's education within itself and I think, like for us. You know what I mean. I be trying to spread word and password and give gain, but you do a good job at that.
Speaker 4:Let me do, because when we first met you were like oh, y'all don't have this. Oh, ok, so do this. Do this. X Y Z. You're good at definitely sharing the information, not gatekeeping. No.
Speaker 1:I can't but that's why it's coming back to you. Let's go.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry, I got excited in that moment it hit you. I just I'm just saying because it's going to come back.
Speaker 4:Smoke up my mouth.
Speaker 2:It's like the glass is off.
Speaker 1:Right, let me put it back. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I got excited you were like I'm just saying, because you're a good connector and you're one of the few people that we've met in this journey. That's like You're not trying to scam nobody you're honest, good guy, you not trying to harass anybody.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Okay, you like and you. It's like an even exchange. You know how sometimes you're always around people and it's like you always giving, you always putting out you know what I'm saying Like you're willing to do it and that's why that's gonna come back to you. That's why the things that you touch are gonna be gold.
Speaker 2:Appreciate it. Yeah, I mean I just think, like, coming from Detroit, like we, like I didn't have, but you know what I'm saying, but I had, I had my grandma, my grandma instilled in me. Like you know what I mean, just give. Like don't, never. If you're gonna take something from somebody, make sure you're giving giving something back. Like you know what I'm saying. Like I'm leaving here with something, like Denzel Watson said like you know what I'm saying, I'm leaving here with something, but I'm gonna give you something too, like you know what I'm saying, so it's like it's an exchange.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's an even exchange, but sometimes it's not even an even exchange and, like Ben said, when he was here, he was like sometimes I'm the 90 and you the 10. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, or sometimes I'm, I'm giving, I'm giving 10 and you giving 90.
Speaker 2:You know, what I mean and it's and that's how with me. It's like me I try to give more than what I receive because at the same time, it's like I know how much I care about the music and I know how much I care about relationship. So once I feel like if the relationship ain't going in the slightest great direction, it's like sometimes I just pull back. I ain't, I ain't taking nothing from you, but you know what I'm saying. I'm still there, like if you, if you need me to be there, but I'm gonna let you know. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Like hey you want some bullshit, but Gotta be honest, yeah, gotta.
Speaker 4:and that's the thing I think.
Speaker 2:I think a lot of times people. They don't understand what it's like for somebody to be straight up with them.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Coming from here, cause I know it's a lot of it's. So you got DC. Dc is what's itself, is in itself Like it's different type of people. Then you got you got Maryland people, and then you got Virginia, northern Virginia, then you got like central Virginia. So it's like everybody acts different. But for me I look at Northern Virginia as like the suburbs and there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2:You know, what I'm saying, cause it's a nice area, it's a nice place to live. You get nice quality schools and it's like the DC people might have moved back there, moved down there or whatever. But I think a lot of times these kids are they're taking, they're taking a lot of things for granted when I'm trying to give it to them. Yeah, you know what I mean. And it's like if I'm giving you the game, take it, instill it into what you want to do, but don't abuse it. You know what I'm saying, cause sometimes a lot of people take the kindness for weakness.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and I'm not. You know, that's funny because I'm not a sugarcoater at all, and me and Nicole have been in numerous situations where I could say something like me and her will always. Ain't nobody ever split us up. There will never be business that's conducted with me and not with her, or with her and not with me. That's just not how we get down. People try to do it, though.
Speaker 2:They do.
Speaker 4:It never worked.
Speaker 1:It never worked. They try to do it because I am a more vocal out of us too, and I'm am straightforward. It's like I could say something in a very nice you know, way straightforward. And then, all of a sudden, they'll start directing all in Korean business to her. Right. As if, like, I've done something, but we're the same. Yeah. We want. It's not. That's not getting split up, so it's just like. If you don't like it, then maybe you need to take what is being said.
Speaker 2:Take what applies to you and the rest let it be yeah, Cause I like and that's the thing that I love about y'all Cause like y'all are two peas in a pod, Y'all ain't ain't nothing coming in between y'all. Yeah, you know what I'm saying and I think that's what, as women, you know what I'm saying. It's dope, because you know, women y'all are crap, y'all like break up so fast, get into it all of that. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4:Over the silliest thing, but the fact that it be important at the time. Yeah.
Speaker 2:But it's like y'all, y'all like stick to it and y'all stay on top, y'all stand on business. If somebody trying to highlight you and try to get like a deal done with you like hold on, let me go talk to my partner, let me go talk.
Speaker 4:It's gonna always be the conversation. The conversation is always and that's come up over and, over and over again between us and people you know direct toward one of us thinking that that's eliminating the other person from the picture.
Speaker 1:But we're always gonna show up and it used to happen a lot in the beginning, but I think that is what allowed us to become really strong friends, Because we realized like, oh, she not gonna flip, and I'm not gonna flip, or I'm not gonna flip, she not gonna flip. So it's like we know there's nothing that's gonna. We always say we will quit this music thing and keep our friendship before any of this before our friendship ever falls off the table.
Speaker 1:That's just not important. Music is important, but the chase of the music and business and all that stuff means nothing over our relationship.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's what I was saying like cause I think like a lot of the kids now, it's like they're more of like a group. It's like I give you the game and then I introduce you to you know people, and then it's like you just now, you attracted to them, you just grab onto that.
Speaker 1:You have more to know. You have a lot of people have.
Speaker 2:And it's like why would you do that when I'm introducing you to more people?
Speaker 1:Right, but they know what's up. The thing is, people know what's up. Yeah, we might not be like, like I said, where we are now, but people know what's up. They know who we are.
Speaker 2:And sooner or later you know what I mean. People, I just people. Loyalty is big. So it's like when I see that, when I see that with people and it's like, damn, these kids are understanding what loyalty is, it's like let me just hop, hop, hop, like they playing Mario, you know.
Speaker 3:You know, you jump on the little curb the little.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I mean at the end of the day. You know they figured out like I just you know, I just try to get. I give game Once I feel like my game don't need to be given, Right, I just pull back and then I start working on the next person.
Speaker 1:No, that is called healthy boundaries everyone.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You've got to have them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and sometimes people don't know what that is.
Speaker 1:Sometimes it's hard.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they definitely don't know what it is.
Speaker 1:Snip, snip over here.
Speaker 2:Let's get to, let's get to like since we're on that topic, like you know what I mean, how do y'all coexist and like cause y'all women, and you know y'all got. Y'all got different. You know what I mean Mind sets. You know what I mean All women, everybody's not the same Right, but how do y'all get along so good? Because a lot of people can't do that.
Speaker 4:I think we got mutual respect. I think that's the biggest thing. It's mutual respect. It is recognition of the other person and what they're trying to do and being able to be a support to that person. So it's like, like what, what said earlier, we are in two different lanes, so there's never a need for me to cross over. I'm not about to be a singer. Right.
Speaker 4:So I just I don't have it in me. But not to get the Lord gave me Right. So there's no need to create a competition where there's no competition. I'm gonna lose that every time, right? So it was like I need to be a support in this role instead of trying to be, you know, an agitator, trying to take over or trying to direct Like that's not my lane to direct. So it was being in your, in your spot and doing your spot Well, like doing it just. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And like two things. There is business that's conducted that has nothing to do with me and it's all about her. And when it is that, then I'm second on her tip. Like, okay, what do you need? Like, what do you need for this particular business? Do you need me to go run and do something? Do I got it? You know I'm a help to her. And if it's something that has to do with just me, it's okay. Well, what do you need? Because pushing either one of us forward helps us, oh yeah.
Speaker 4:In general.
Speaker 1:And, I think too, relationships. We do the hard work, we have honest conversations and we've had hard conversations about friendship. I don't feel like you're showing up for me.
Speaker 3:Or.
Speaker 1:I don't feel this or I. You know we periodically be like okay, well, how can I serve you better as a friend? You know what I'm saying and it's things like that. And I think that is the difference, you know. We, like I said, we're different people, we have different wants and desires, but at the end of the day, we still have, we respect each other.
Speaker 2:You know it's crazy, though I think women y'all too, like women have that conversation way more than men. A man can't be like bro, like you ain't showing up for me. What's up with you? Yeah?
Speaker 3:You know what?
Speaker 2:I'm saying and I think it's messed up because it's like we just we still human. Like why we can't have that same conversation. That is true, I think, with us, with men, is that people, egos, get in the way.
Speaker 1:We're gonna say what I got. I'm scared, yeah, like what is it?
Speaker 2:Cause you know me, I'm a talk.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm a say something, I'm a say something, I'm a say something, I mean cause.
Speaker 4:But I think it is a little bit of ego, and I was gonna say that because you know what I'm saying when I feel like when a woman tells a man it's ego, then that only enhances.
Speaker 1:Perpetuates the issue, like y'all are like oh you telling me I got an ego problem and it's like well, yes, but if I say it then it's a bigger issue.
Speaker 4:But for you to you know, for you to bring that up, I think that is, but it's between like goes hand in hand with both men in the conversation, like it's the ego that's not gonna say, like, basically, this is hurting my feelings, that you're treating me like this when I feel, like I show up for you and you're not showing up for me and it's like you can't have that conversation.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think I think that's where we lose as men, because it's not hard Like it's not hard to say, bro, I fucked up. Like you know what I mean. Like, instead of being passive, I can see where that might have made you upset. Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Like-. So do you feel like you have any relationships with another male where you can be honest?
Speaker 2:Oh Khadim shit rolling.
Speaker 1:I was gonna say. I was gonna say I feel like Khadim.
Speaker 2:Khadim, for sure, like we've been bro since shit just like well, january 2004, almost 20 years.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And we literally have those conversations Like, bro, I think you need to fix this, I think you need to fix that, even with other people, relationships like that, you see but I don't know what. And he be like bro, I think you need to go talk to that person again. And if I already talked to that person, I tell him like look, bro, I done already I had that conversation. Like I can't keep being a bigger person, like I'm just fall.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna fall back because I can't keep. Because now it's starting to feel like I'm saying the same thing over and over and it's not the person's not understanding it. So when they not understanding it, okay cool, no worries, I'll pull back. You know what?
Speaker 1:I mean Next one. You know what I mean Healthy boundaries. Hit the blinker left blinker.
Speaker 2:All right, I'm in another lane, but yeah, but Khadim in them is definitely. He's definitely one for sure, because she even my own family, like issues that I got with my family Like Khadim.
Speaker 1:Khadim even tries to reach out to the family members and that's beautiful, that's the kind of relationship like you would like to have with everyone around you, but that's just, that's not real. That's not realistic.
Speaker 4:That's what I was gonna say and I think it might seem like women have like this large tribe of women. That's all that we can do that with everybody. But the honest and truth. Is this not all 10 of us that rock together? It's you have your pockets and you can rely on other people outside in your big tribe. But the relationship like that deep relationship where you can go back and forth and support people and be honest and vulnerable, that's not as big as it may seem on the. I think we're kind of people.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I'd be like yo am I, bro am I? Fucking up Am I truth?
Speaker 1:And he'd be like, no, bro, or he'd be like, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna get this we were just talking about how Nicole, how she'll correct somebody, I was like, nah, like I'm gonna just tell you. And she was like, well, I mean, maybe we could have attempted it this way.
Speaker 3:But, like maybe I would have did something, and I was like, so I gotta work on delivery.
Speaker 1:I gotta work on delivery.
Speaker 2:So like I gotta work on delivery and the Marines you know, tack.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2:You know that tack is different.
Speaker 1:Well, for me it's just like sometimes it's like I hate having to repeat myself all the time.
Speaker 2:And you know what's crazy about you, Daisy Dang. Your mom and dad is what?
Speaker 1:Marines.
Speaker 2:And you, yeah, and you, you be like that all the time, like, but I feel it though, cause it's like, it's like you get one with me. I don't even give you three strikes.
Speaker 1:I'm better at giving strikes, but, like, once I've had enough, it's a wrap. It's a wrap, I'm not. There's nothing to talk about, because we've already either had conversations, we've already, I've already opened up the floor for you to either, when I say do wrong, like you be the done something, or I've done something we've talked about we. You know what I mean. But, like at the time, you know why I was thinking about the other day, cause my asset in a relationship is me. Right.
Speaker 1:That's how. That's how confident I know of the worth that I bring to a relationship Just me as my person you know what.
Speaker 1:I'm saying Cause I'm a loyal, honest, real, transparent but, you see what you get. If I rock with you, I rock with you, so if you can't, everyone, I'm learning that people are not like me. Right. And just because they're not like me doesn't make them bad, so I give I have opened up a lot of grace for that, but at the same time what's your sign? My sign has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 2:Oh, it has a lot.
Speaker 1:I'm a German ass.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, that's why. Yeah, that's, that's, that's has a lot to do with it?
Speaker 1:What is it? What is it?
Speaker 2:Cause I mean y'all, y'all like a light switch, Y'all a light switch A light switch.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you off on the two personalities. You can turn that off.
Speaker 2:you can turn it on, and then you can turn it off.
Speaker 1:Let me tell you something, baby when that light turn off, you guys will cut that bill. It ain't coming back on. Cut the bill, cut the bill, cut the bill.
Speaker 4:Cut the board. Cut the bill Cut the bill cut the board.
Speaker 2:Okay, so look y'all.
Speaker 4:What's the solar power?
Speaker 2:That's the solar power. You know, this is all we're different.
Speaker 4:She's so smart. You guys don't got to buy that, you got to buy that, you got to buy that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and maybe, maybe the person with the solar power might, might convince me that's what's good, so you got a backup plan, you just yeah, that's the battery backup.
Speaker 4:Sorry, they gonna cut back on. I won't cut back on. No, you good, you good.
Speaker 2:Let's, let's get on this other adventure that y'all have, which I think is dope. I even thought about doing it too. So y'all used to be like, hey, we ain't gonna come to the studio we got, I got finals, I got this, what y'all was studying for.
Speaker 4:Oh, we was in school getting a. We were getting a free master's.
Speaker 2:Free master's. Yeah, let's talk about it.
Speaker 4:You know, I believe in free education.
Speaker 2:I do too.
Speaker 4:And so when I get opportunities that are free 99, I consider them right, right, and so, on this consideration, it was get your masters and then you teach for three years, all of which were paid. Oh jeez, you know, but we're in the school system teaching, right, but we got the masters in support of it's hard.
Speaker 1:That's what she's not saying. It's hard Teaching and PG is hard.
Speaker 4:Teaching itself in itself is hard, everywhere in every square. Everywhere, in every square, them teachers.
Speaker 1:It don't matter, I'm in middle school, my God. Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm in high school and you know, I just didn't know that it was gonna be what it was Shout out to the career teachers. Like this is what y'all went to school for. This is what y'all decided early on.
Speaker 2:Like you was, y'all were y'all were built for this Hands down, hands down.
Speaker 1:I pray y'all triple blessings because after my three years.
Speaker 2:I am out in a bus system and I think, like I was saying like it's dope that y'all did that and I'm like damn they got they studying, studying yeah.
Speaker 1:It was a little more than I thought it was gonna be.
Speaker 2:Y'all was like yo I gotta take a break. I can't do music right now. My mind's not there. Yeah, and then I thought about it. I was like yeah, and then I looked at Laina you know she in middle school now and I said yeah, I know what you're going through.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Attitudes.
Speaker 2:Everything.
Speaker 1:It's a mixed emotion. The actual teaching is not the hard part, it is everything else around it.
Speaker 1:It's like Stuff that come with it, you know because, coming into education with a government background in of any kind local, state or federal and I've been in all three- Ooh. Hello. Okay, I've been in the government side of employment. So to go into education and you look at infrastructure and you're like, oh, these are like what is it Sales point? Like there's all these points or parts in this infrastructure. That is like I'm surprised that this is how education is like. It's like they're handy, yeah, Because.
Speaker 2:You can see that, you can see what's really going on.
Speaker 1:Right yeah.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:I'm looking from a different lens. There's a lot of people that I've worked with that have only been teachers, so that's the only experience that they have. So they're like oh, this is just how it is and I never take. This is how it is. That's an answer.
Speaker 2:I hate that. Oh God, that's the marine thing. Oh my God, this is how we do it. Nah, no, right it could be done.
Speaker 1:It could be done.
Speaker 4:We could do it a little differently, but first and foremost, the teachers need to be paid more. I don't know.
Speaker 1:Oh, my God.
Speaker 4:I don't know what campaign needs to be started. I really in my heart thought I mean, I still got a little bit of time left on my ticket, but I thought I was going to be in there with the teacher strike. Just I thought that we were going to say that we was all going to band together and be like y'all need to get paid more, Everybody, all these teachers, we should all have what happened, though. It just hasn't been easy.
Speaker 1:You know, I brought it up to a couple of teachers. They're just like oh no, we couldn't do that. I say what If y'all quit? They would have to, they would have to, they would have to figure out how to do it.
Speaker 2:I respect the hell out of teachers because I had to think about it, like you, with these kids, at least eight hours a day. So that's, as a student, this is my work schedule. As a teacher, this is your work schedule. So you're working eight to nine plus hours a day, right, and you're getting mixed emotions every hour, or every 55, however long y'all classes, right, and you're getting mixed emotions from these kids. And then you have to go back home and then turn it off. It's hard because you start caring for those kids, because you know what it was like being that kid that couldn't afford something or being that kid that just got stuff going on at home.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying. And then gotta come to school and then you know some of them might last out or whatever. But it takes a lot of mental to be a teacher.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying Because I've been out right.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying and it takes a lot of mental to do that, but for a teacher, you know what I'm saying. I think it's up there. You know what I'm saying, it's definitely up there.
Speaker 4:I think that's what makes it one of the hardest things. And I don't think that's probably the workload. One caught me off guard like going into it, smooth off guard. I was like that's a lot.
Speaker 1:I thought I was just coming in here To plan Two plus two on it Right.
Speaker 4:But all right, we'll figure that out. But going into the mental and emotional availability and support that you have to be able to have, it's like that's one of the things like if I'm having a bad day when you work for the government, I'm gonna go sit at my desk.
Speaker 2:And be quiet. I don't have to interact or call up me, I'm gonna call out.
Speaker 4:Or call out all of those things which calling out as a teacher? Oh my goodness, it's more work. I have to have subplans. What are we doing here?
Speaker 2:I might as well come I gotta write a plan, but like you have to be a family, so you got a right plan for the substitute, so yeah, in your classroom while you're gone.
Speaker 4:So it was like I have to plan to. Wow. Or I have to have emergency subplans. So that just in case something really does happen like that, there's something for them to do.
Speaker 2:So all of this stuff is already premeditated and pre-made before you even go out, if you go out.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and don't let me wanna go out for four days like and really take a treat myself. Like now I have to do extra work to get it prepared so that they have something to do for the four days Jesus.
Speaker 2:Christ Intense. So it's like all these plans, and these plans go to who?
Speaker 4:To your department chair or somebody so that they can't guess Like the head and give it to the sub Cause.
Speaker 1:The thing is is I don't just plan one math lesson, plan right, I have kids that have different, you know. I'm a fifth grade math teacher and I have some students that are at second grade In math, so I have to create one lesson plan that can bring the second grader up, but also continue to give a rigor for my fifth graders that are at seven and eighth grade. So one lesson plan turns into like five.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So that's the thing and I'm learning that because you know we go. I went to school. You know I went to a performing our school elementary and middle school.
Speaker 4:Were you in place. Were you in place, you in the ballet.
Speaker 1:You gotta take dance, didn't you?
Speaker 2:I did have to take dance. Yep, I wasn't in no ballet. Okay. Because I was a drummer, I was in a band, so that's how I bypassed that.
Speaker 4:Okay.
Speaker 2:But Jim, half of the semester was Dan Mmm we're fine and I still, I still, oh, ballet like plie, stretch, passe, all of that Okay with the terminology, Okay. And I still, to this day, I remember Miss Thornton, because Miss Thornton was fine as hell and I didn't understand you know. So that's what kept my focus, cause she put me in front Like so she you know, you know how they had a mirrors and a dance in their classes, so I would be right behind her. So when we stretching, I'm right behind her.
Speaker 2:You see, so that was my motivation, as you know, a elementary middle school kid Cause I'm like man. I don't want to be this. I want to play basketball and play sports. I want to do something. But it gave me a new fine respect because, like that, damn shit ain't easy.
Speaker 4:Yeah, no, it's technical, it is, and we did you know what I mean we did.
Speaker 2:we did like in class like recitals. We didn't do like on a stage. I left that to the people that wanted to do that. And I mean I stuck with the drums and the cymbals and the bass drums, so I didn't initially like do any, but I definitely had you had to do it. You had to do every.
Speaker 2:You had to do choir, you had to do it all. You had to do something, but I stuck with with the band cause you know what I mean. Mr Mack was the coldest out in Detroit, the coldest I know that's right.
Speaker 4:I was the kind of the Mack my high school band director.
Speaker 2:He was trying to get every kid from my middle, my middle school, my area academy, because Mr Mack taught him and I didn't know that until I got there and he literally was grabbing all the drummers. And I ain't want to be a bangy, I want to play sports. I thought that was weak, Come to find out.
Speaker 3:That's where all the girls was at.
Speaker 2:The band is where it's at, and that's where all the that's where all the turn up was at. So I would come. I'm like how you out of school. Like how you out of class, like bro, how you, why you ain't in class. Bro, I got band. I got band practice. Like what, oh?
Speaker 4:shit Taking trips.
Speaker 2:Taking trips and they ended up going to play in the Rose Bowl. They was the best band. Oh nice, they represented Detroit in the Rose Bowl one year, but yeah, no, I had to stick with my music. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I get it, I mean. But so the bigger goal, though, is that why we did this master's? Because we have a nonprofit called Dream Factory Incorporated, where we give high school black and brown kids exposure to STEM and counseling services. So that is the bigger STEM, science, technology and science technology, engineering and math. Sorry, I ain't trying to cut me out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, try to cut the math wizard out over here.
Speaker 4:Sorry.
Speaker 2:She, Nick is the Einstein.
Speaker 1:She is. She's literally one of the smartest people I know.
Speaker 2:But I still need help with this finance class.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's no problem what you got.
Speaker 2:That shit just told her. Listen to me. So look, my dad was an accountant. So you know I tried to. You know I went to school to become an accountant at Mason, whatever. Well, I started at Nova. Then, from Nova I was just like, nah, this ain't it, let me go. I still want to stay in business.
Speaker 2:So, that's when I switched to marketing. You know I switched to marketing I'm thinking like, okay, I'm cool, I don't got to do accounting no more. They was like, no, you got accounting 300. You got, you got a finance 300. I said, hold up.
Speaker 4:Like what is this? You need the budget.
Speaker 2:And then I started understanding it. So that's when that perpetuity and all of that stuff started making sense to me and I'm like, oh, that's what they talking about.
Speaker 4:I said you ain't gonna never see no money.
Speaker 2:This perpetuity, like it's forever.
Speaker 4:Forever, forever, forever.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so nah. Yeah, I think the educators definitely should be paid more, six figures at least.
Speaker 4:Six figures At least, At least in the first four years that you teach it. You should be making six figures.
Speaker 2:Because I think it's to me like they telling you oh, you need a degree to be a teacher, and then, when you get a degree, all right, you need this degree to get a higher pay.
Speaker 4:Yeah, oh, okay.
Speaker 2:Once you get this degree, you need this degree to get more money. And it's like what?
Speaker 4:Right, but when are the teachers supposed to go to school if they have to teach?
Speaker 2:Yeah, Because you doing Prack app every day with kids. You know what I'm saying. They want them to have quality lesson plans. You know what?
Speaker 4:I'm saying so then they're at home working on the weekends, and don't let them want to. You know I did not Coach 18.
Speaker 2:I know you really ain't got no time. You really ain't got no time. Don't have no kids.
Speaker 4:Right and don't let them have a family. They over here raising your children but then they raise their children. But in order to get more money so they can have a better quality of life, they in turn have to then spend all their extra time going back to school. It's just unfair.
Speaker 2:So this dream factory and SNM, how many kids do like? Have y'all worked with kids already, or is it still a building?
Speaker 1:We have a couple of people.
Speaker 4:We have. We've been working, we've done pilot programs and work with high school students, middle school students online. During quarantine we did the CME program, which was agricultural engineering, and it kind of exposed them to just that whole process of being able to grow their own food and what it looks like, the science of that, and how that connects us to therapy and the connections to therapy, because I think one of the things that the school system does not do a good job at is teaching students how to control their emotions. Right.
Speaker 4:Like so, just in regular occurrences in life, like they don't handle conflict or just their emotions well at all. And so, and that's what gets them in trouble, and that's what causes the depression, and then interject social media on.
Speaker 4:There is just layers and layers of things that are not taught to them that they're trying to navigate on their own, which is taking away from a lot of things they're trying to be successful at because they can't get off their phones like I, have students that come to me in tears about Instagram and things that their friends have. Posted about them and I was like well one, they're probably not your real friend.
Speaker 1:Right and block them.
Speaker 4:Yeah, just don't engage, get off social media. But that's like a pull for them that no one is really teaching them like we get on social media, we be like this actually is bad for you, but we have the understanding to like I'm gonna just get off it here for a while, I'm gonna delete that, or you're using it for a business, right, right. As you figure out.
Speaker 2:I just need to use it like right and I barely want to use that. Yeah, they don't have that navigation.
Speaker 4:They're like well, all my friends are on here. How am I talking? I'm like you talked to them in school, right?
Speaker 1:That's fine, that's like no, but everybody's on that. That's their concept, that's their form of communication. Yeah, right grew up with them versus. We didn't always have.
Speaker 2:We didn't even have cell phones that part. We had the rotary dial.
Speaker 4:But also we had AIM. It's the messenger.
Speaker 2:In the 2000s.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yo when.
Speaker 1:I was like, hey, um, were you living when the phone used to be on the wall and you had the light and they didn't know? I said a rotary phone. I was like, yeah, what about it? Here goes. He was like well, did you have fun back then? Here's another one of my students. Of course she didn't.
Speaker 2:Wow, she was like what. That was the best time of my life. Yeah, we was outside, we were the real version of outside, the real version, the real outside.
Speaker 3:Until the street lights came on.
Speaker 2:Okay, like man Real outside, they don't even go outside Like they inside.
Speaker 4:They're very much. They're outside. Yes, you're just at another establishment. No, we were outside In the elements.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think the success of what you are doing in this dream factory is going to boost you out to a whole another level too, because STEM is so dope and I wish we had it when I was growing up, because I was a little, I was a little nerd. I ain't even lying, I was Ain't nothing wrong with that. This is for one. I was a midget, I was short. What yeah, man? Look, I was 411 until 11th grade. What? Yeah, I was 411 until 11th grade.
Speaker 4:Did they stretch you when you went into the military?
Speaker 2:Nah, so what happened? I was tripping because everybody in my family, even my grandma on my dad's side, was like 5'9". You know what I mean. My grandfather was 6'2", my dad was 6'2", my uncle was 6'2". My other uncle was 6'5". You were 411? You?
Speaker 3:know what I'm saying? That is so strange.
Speaker 2:So, then my cousins Rest in Peace was like 6'1", 6'2". My cousin, my cousin Boogie Damien, he's 6'7". You know what I'm saying? He's younger than me. So then I got my cousin Rhoad. That's 2 days apart, a year and 2 days apart. He's a year younger than me. He's 6'4". My brother like 5'9".
Speaker 4:I know your feelings was hurt and my other cousin like 5'9".
Speaker 2:So I'm like yo, why the hell I'm so damn short?
Speaker 4:What happened? What happened? Somebody explain it to me?
Speaker 2:I'm like alright, I know what it is. I didn't like milk drinking. I didn't like drinking milk. My cousin, I hated milk. You know that's what's the thing. Milk grow bone, make it bone. There's a body good, all of this crap they used to put on commercials. So my cousin used to drink Boogie, used to drink milk. With everything my grandma makes steak, he'll drink milk. Everything was milk.
Speaker 4:He's 6'7" 6'7".
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying so, like even my aunts, all my aunts is like 5'9" and except for my auntie she's the only short one. What?
Speaker 4:I was going to be you, in short, so it was the milk. You wasn't hurt enough.
Speaker 2:But my mom is like 5'2", 5'3". I'm like yo, this ain't right. I was praying man that night. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1:You was on Bendy Knee and guys said we going to your prayers that night.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm a little bunk bed I had. What if I could just go 2 more inches?
Speaker 4:lower.
Speaker 2:I was playing safety as a freshman on the JV team and I couldn't see nobody. You sure couldn't think of we were practicing varsity and I was literally almost I like I shut up the crib, I injured the running, the running back one day.
Speaker 1:On purpose.
Speaker 2:No, because, like I couldn't, I'm thinking it was a pass. And then next, you know, I just see this dude running straight up straight up and I had to do something. I tackled him, but I tackled him wrong. I like tackled him and like tripped him and messed up his ankle or whatever, but no man. After that I was like yo man. I think I'm just going to stick with baseball, because I played baseball at the same time.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you don't need a lot of hype for baseball.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a good choice. So when did? Your height, take off 11th grade I was 5'3".
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And then when the rest of your height take off. Senior year I was 5'7". Beginner senior year.
Speaker 4:Okay.
Speaker 2:And then, after senior year, I was 5'11". It was crazy Like I had a late ass growth spurt. My voice, though, had changed to grade Like I had a deep voice, but I was 4'11", 4'11".
Speaker 4:You know what I'm saying and I was in the choir. He's up here.
Speaker 2:In the choir senior year, so you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:You was in the front row of the choir. So when you were 4'11", did you have a girlfriend? Yeah, I did.
Speaker 2:What did you tell?
Speaker 1:her.
Speaker 2:No, Karen was actually shorter than her Karen. Karen. She was a black girl, though. Okay, you know Detroit, we were about 90% black and I was about to shut up the eyes of one, but no, that was her name, karen Karen. Jones. But her dad, her dad. It was weird, her dad was like 6'5", 6'6" Old country dudes, but she was shorter than 4'11". Yeah, but her mom. Her mom was shorter than her.
Speaker 4:Okay, all right. They say tall men like short women.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they did so. After that, you know, I got my height and you know. But before that, like the school thing was always my thing, you know what I mean. Like my dad would be like yo, you get a good, you get 3.0 and up, I go take you to get a game. We go to Toys Rust we go to get this.
Speaker 4:So like even with the girls now.
Speaker 2:So Lana had got a 3.7 this year.
Speaker 4:Nice.
Speaker 2:You know, it took her to Claire's 2D and them they don't even get grades, they get letters, they get numbers and I'm like I don't know.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:Fuck his numbers. You know what I'm saying. My mom was like she's like 2D did good to all. The all right, Come on, we both I take both that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So now? But school always been a thing with me. Math was my thing until I got the ninth grade.
Speaker 4:What happened in ninth grade Algebra?
Speaker 2:No algebra. I knew algebra in eighth, seventh grade, but ninth grade the teacher was just Mr Cass. Deal was trash.
Speaker 1:Like I think that you can remember your teacher's name. It's crazy to me because it's like you know these are different moments in my life that stuck with me.
Speaker 2:It's like yo bro. I never had a. F, never at man. You talking about bringing that to my mama house, did you?
Speaker 4:deserve it.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 1:Okay, so look so.
Speaker 2:I did all my work but he just didn't like. He didn't like me because one day I walked out of the classroom Because I had to pee. My mama was told me like if you got a pee, leave, don't sit your butt in there and pee on yourself.
Speaker 4:That's fair.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying I said I did it, I left. He would never let me come back to class and he wouldn't let me get homework, like get the work from the class. So I got an F that whole semester.
Speaker 4:Right, you know, back in the day the teachers used to have a lot of problems.
Speaker 2:A lot of problems.
Speaker 1:A lot of problems.
Speaker 4:My mama got failed in elementary school because the teacher didn't like her. And it was. She had to repeat a whole grade. I said that was never, happened today.
Speaker 2:These parents, would be on a riot and on the podcast yeah the doors. Yeah. So summer, the summer of that year was that 99, 2000. I went to summer school. You got to A. The only thing is it was just sucked Like I had to get up in early in the morning, walk down to. Luckily I went to the school. I was around the corner from my grandma house, Kettering, and I would go there do my work. Come on, you know what I mean. Still be a kid, you know what I mean yeah.
Speaker 2:But then wake up in the morning, go to class and finish it out. But yeah, I ended up getting to A and I was like, see, I told you, like it wasn't me Right, my mama, she was, she won.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm not having that yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Because you know back then, the parent teacher conference too like it was all what the teacher said Right, Like are you really believing this dude?
Speaker 2:Like I had to go to the bathroom Right After that. Yeah, but no, music and school always was my thing. So like even seeing my daughter's doing it and it's like like, yeah, why they teaching you this way, this math way they teaching them is like it's very different.
Speaker 4:They're supposed to open up their mind to be able to process concepts better. When they start with that the better it will work out for them later. But it does not make sense if you didn't learn it.
Speaker 2:Right and then they had, so they transferred from Aunt Beers, which is right here in Alabama DC. They transferred from Aunt Beers and went to key elementary all the way in Georgetown.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:Completely different.
Speaker 1:I'm like what the fuck?
Speaker 2:And they transferred during the pandemic. Okay, so that was. I think that was even harder. Yeah, I understand this whole math culture. Yeah, you had some kids living in Florida. They had two houses, they was Richard's head, one friend. They right next to the Germany embassy.
Speaker 2:So it was like, yeah, it was it was, it was definitely a big thing. So, um, no man, I think the dream factor is super dope for y'all, and I think that, um, you mean y'all just shouted it out, so it's definitely gonna be. You know what I mean, am I?
Speaker 4:And we got a spot for you.
Speaker 5:Yeah we got a curriculum we actually have already talked about this yeah, we got a curriculum.
Speaker 2:Mathem.
Speaker 4:I mean, we got to have it. We got to write it up, make sure it aligns with everything, but it's math.
Speaker 1:Give it to your manager. Yeah, you know, give it to your team. Make sure what your writer is.
Speaker 3:Yeah, make sure you get what you need from it.
Speaker 4:It's beneficial, but you know, to come and explain to the students the aspects of math that are involved in music. So it's like in producing and beat making and all of the numbers and the games. And then mixing and being able to cut and look at the sound waves and stuff like that. So, like the music and the math how that comes together, we got a spot for you to come and do Did.
Speaker 2:I say hello Alice.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, yeah, we know how it works.
Speaker 2:If y'all don't know about Hello Alice, y'all need to. Any business, small business, any business, mainly small business owners. Hello Alice definitely can help you with your nonprofits LLCs to get your to get money.
Speaker 4:Yeah, get funding for it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we were fired for coming back Get grants that's what it is, it's grants and shout out to chat GPT. They can help you write for those grants. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3:You know, what I'm saying, so a lot of people don't know that.
Speaker 2:And so let's get to something else. We have one of the ladies. She ain't single, no more.
Speaker 1:Oh, she is not she is not single, no more. She is not.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean, Nick over here and my guy fellow Raven fan. Ooh. You know what I'm saying? My guy Joe.
Speaker 4:Unnecessary flex.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Joe.
Speaker 4:Raven's fan yikes Came out of nowhere. I don't know where I mean. You know quarantine, he was a quarantine bae.
Speaker 2:Oh, he was quarantine bae.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 4:He swooped me up, took me off the streets.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and he's been quarantined ever since.
Speaker 4:Basically, you know I was a little nervous. I was like quarantine. You know this isn't real life. We see each other all the time. You know the world's going to open back up. It's going to be different. We going to have different movement. He was like you know, the world's open back up, but we ain't got to change and I was like all right, that was a good answer, we going to rock with it yeah. We rock and we, you know, rock now stop.
Speaker 2:now we hear yeah, so how is it being married?
Speaker 4:Married life is a whole host of emotions, right, it is super fun you get to learn yourself so much. Even more. Even the more. Yeah, you think you know yourself. Somebody else be like you know you do that. Yeah, I did not. I did not know. I did that Little things that, like you didn't know, were going to be a big deal. When I say a big deal, it's not like Life or death, yeah.
Speaker 4:I just mean, like the topic of conversation Right, like I thought I had grocery shopping and cooking down to a sign, but I input one more person into the mix and now I don't feel like I know I don't got a good grasp on it anymore.
Speaker 2:One season is awful One season.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's like I'm trying to cook differently. I'm like I'm cooking for more, trying to make it last a little longer. You eat a little more.
Speaker 5:I'm trying to you know, overcome that, I feel like man eat a lot. Because, and I just wasn't prepared for it Like you, can't be that hungry.
Speaker 4:I think he was eating cute when I would cook before.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying, yeah, he was putting on a front. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:Like eating, cute, like being respectful.
Speaker 1:Oh, I've been there.
Speaker 4:And that was that was being respectable.
Speaker 2:Yeah, being respectable, being respectful when I appreciate it. This tastes good, babe. No, so it's not the taste, it's the quantity. Yeah.
Speaker 4:So it was like I'm giving you, I'm fixing your plate, like I put this on it, this on it, good, and so.
Speaker 1:It's your man's plate honey.
Speaker 4:You're eating, so I'm thinking that you're fed.
Speaker 2:Did you find this out? Did you find this out like at a, like a family event where he was eating good, or did you find it out just y'all too?
Speaker 4:No, just us too. Like once we we didn't live together prior to being married, and so we got married, we got our house and then we lived together for the first time, and so this has been all of the little things that have come out just in like laundry. Yeah. How we folding the towels. Definitely how you fold it so.
Speaker 4:Ah, yeah, how you fold it. I do a hamburger hot dog 3P. You know what I'm saying Hamburger hot. So you take the towel and you fold it the fat way. So it's a hamburger, and then you make it short, which is like a hot dog, and then you do three fold. Three fold, so it looks nice and clean on there. What do you mean when you say?
Speaker 1:tri-fold, what do you?
Speaker 2:mean Make it skinny. You know you do the skinny and it's tall. Yeah. You know what I mean. Then you fold it over. I might be doing it the same way.
Speaker 4:It's just. It's just vertical Right, and then you fold it. So all I care about is that it looks the same when I put it on that shelf Right, do you?
Speaker 2:have the just one bin facing you.
Speaker 4:Do you have?
Speaker 2:the little S or whatever that little thing is. You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4:Oh no, I have the long, I want the the fat side, the fat, yeah, yeah, yeah, facing me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, y'all just see y'all faces, because I know, I know that thing, that thing just tickled, it's something that like, that's not the conversation you sit down like you didn't.
Speaker 2:Clearly you had that discussion before you didn't be like yo how you fold your towels, Nobody talks about that Even a t-shirt.
Speaker 4:Yo, the t-shirts. He has a t-shirt folder. I ain't trying to fold a t-shirt. He got a t-shirt folder, but I don't fold my t-shirts like that. So when he be folding my clothes and I be like don't fold that, because I'm gonna just unfold it so that it fits in my drawer, and he was like you don't want me to help you, and I was like I do so he do laundry. He does Shout out to Joe.
Speaker 2:Joe with the laundry. Shout out to Joe, he does the laundry.
Speaker 4:I do not like laundry. He does the laundry. He folds it. You know what I'm saying? Wow.
Speaker 2:I didn't know that it is a blessing, you know.
Speaker 4:Because me and laundry, but also because I put all my. Maybe I'm a savage with my laundry, but I just put it all in there. And I don't. Now I get it out. No, and I put it in the dryer. I don't like separate, like ooh, I don't want this to be dried and I don't want this material. I'm a hang dry this.
Speaker 2:I'm not that.
Speaker 4:I don't do that.
Speaker 2:I'm not that particular, but I do do whites and colors.
Speaker 1:No, I don't do that. I gotta have white.
Speaker 2:No, but there's some people like no reds, blacks.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, Like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when I was married, like she would be like like everything, I'm like purples. I'm like yo that purple and blue go together and red, why you can't just put them in there. She like no, you can't. Red, got too much dye.
Speaker 4:This guy, this girl, the first time you watched it like I do know that, but like in general I'm gonna put all my clothes in there, and so he has a more particular way of doing the laundry. So it's best that he, like I really do try, but then I don't know how I'm supposed to know that these jeans need to air dry, but these jeans can go in there.
Speaker 1:There's nothing on the tag. So clothes okay got to.
Speaker 4:So now I'm shrinking clothes. We gotta get new jeans. Damn.
Speaker 2:Not shrinking clothes, he said the towels. Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he does the laundry. Shout out to. Joe, I do the grocery shopping.
Speaker 2:I can do that, so you get the detergent. What detergent do I get?
Speaker 4:So I need the free and clear. But we are, we're trying to incorporate a little bit more smell goods, but sometimes it was like irritating my skin and so I just was like now I need the no.
Speaker 2:Which one free and clear would.
Speaker 4:All right, whatever is that Costco, but just doesn't have any type of scent in it.
Speaker 1:Is it a brand?
Speaker 4:I think it's Kirkland yeah.
Speaker 1:It's green, so it best ain't got no dye. No dye and no smell.
Speaker 4:But it's just gonna clean your clothes I'm trying to.
Speaker 2:It's pure sale. I think that's what Pure, what Pure sale. I think it's pure sale. That's what I but need to use for her and the girls.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:So like sometimes, like I go over there and use their laundry and then they be like you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:She probably get on hard.
Speaker 2:Man, she be like you, bringing some laundry detergent right. I said no, y'all got these pots. She said no, you need to get these, you need to get pure sale. Get the right pots, then I'm like what the All right cool, so I use it, but it smells good. And then she got like some little, some little thing. It's like a little porcupine, little fish.
Speaker 4:Oh, you put the dryer. Yeah, you put the dryer. So you only dry she's something, she's not even dry.
Speaker 2:Good, I said, yeah, what?
Speaker 4:is this? Yeah, I think I'm gonna get that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that joint dope. I ain't gonna lie Cause I be taking it out like and Judy, be like Eddie. You forgot to put the thing back in the dryer.
Speaker 1:That's right, girls, hold your head. Yeah, such good girls I'm like what?
Speaker 2:What is this thing Like? Why y'all even got this in there? She's like that's what makes the clothes smell good. Yeah. And I'm like okay, so it's like I'm still learning divorced, and all you know what I'm saying Like damn, but yeah, like what does it? I know Joe's musical too, right.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he plays the trumpet and the drums.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so how does that? How does that? Do y'all get like sessions in the career? You know what I mean.
Speaker 4:So in my mind, I thought we was gonna be doing a little jam session but, he's trying to get back into his, into playing the trumpet, but we don't have like jam sessions, but what we do we appreciate. You know, like live music We'll listen to, like the orchestra arrangement, like New Deco on YouTube but, we're always listening to a live music, something on YouTube, like when we sit back and chill, we gonna have. You know he'll make like a Manhattan or old fashioned and we'll be listening to all the live music.
Speaker 2:That's like one of my new favorite drinks, the old fashioned. Do he got like the uh, the little like copper cup too?
Speaker 4:No, so that I think he used those for the mules For the mules For a ginger beer and shout out to Costco. They just had a case of ginger beer on sale. I don't know if y'all need that, but scoop that up that's gonna elevate the mules. It's a quality crisp ginger beer. Yeah, need that. Now. I might get them the copper cups, but we, you know, in the home improvement life, we built a little bar section. Okay, y'all gotta y'all gotta look.
Speaker 2:you gotta barista over there Cause they're engineers.
Speaker 1:they're both engineers, yeah, so we, you know a little.
Speaker 4:There's a little that we tried to repurpose in front of Jer. Uptake it. You know what I'm saying. So we gotta come over and he can. They'll make you a nice crisp.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Joe gotta come over and play the trumpet too.
Speaker 4:You know what I mean. Let me get some loot, not some loot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, you know. So like I got, uh, some shakers. You know little marimbas and you know like not marimbas, but um, got the maracas. Yeah, I got maracas. So you know, I've been sampling my own thing through it like look, oh wow, come on, ryan, leslie, let's do it yeah no, you know, cause that's why you know that's it, that's his man's. But I ain't gonna lie. When I first watched that YouTube video of uh Ryan Leslie, I said no, this dude literally just ordered a pocket trumpet.
Speaker 4:You still got the pocket. Trumpet man, I'm still ready. No, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm still trying to learn, like so this year coming, piano and the trumpet is the two things that I'm really trying to like learn, yeah, and then, deja, I need your help because Tutti, tutti wants to sing. You know, she's always awesome, but she's like hey, can you find something for Tutti Cause Lanna, you know Lanna doing volleyball softball Tutti does softball too.
Speaker 2:but Tutti actually really can sing and she be singing her little heart out in the basement when I be over there and stuff. You know what I'm saying? And I'm like damn, she really got, she got tone, she can sing Like she can hold a note.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So it's like I need to find Well, let's get on a record, let's put her on it. Let's just put her on it. I need to find something. I don't want some backgrounds. Let's do the background, yeah let's do it.
Speaker 2:So yeah, hajjo, come over here, we can get the trumpet going Come over there.
Speaker 4:Oh family session. We get a whole session going. Yeah, we know we can do that. We got a good space for it, yeah.
Speaker 2:You got a set up already.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we got the studio set up and when we were preparing for the live recording for the concert, we, the band, filled out the live, the live space. And so we had to pack down there, all seven of us. Everybody had a little space, a little corner, backgrounds. The full set bass guitar, electric guitar, piano. Yeah. So it's set up. When I do piano lessons, the kids come down. They was wow, nice, can I do drums? It's like you're here for piano. Yeah, no, honey, we're going to work on piano first.
Speaker 2:For the right price. We're going to get you to the drums Right. And then we'll assess if we can go on over to the drums.
Speaker 4:We got to start with piano first, but they'd be real excited about the space Also inviting space.
Speaker 2:And learning to play the set. That's another thing. I never knew how to play the set, oh really, because I was just marching band, I never played a set.
Speaker 4:It is different and it's a whole.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Like your foot hitting the drum and yeah, you got to be able to coordinate and be having the right mind to get everything to sound right, because it sounds so good when I hear live drum.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. It's a good feeling.
Speaker 2:It's a different type of feel. So what's next for y'all?
Speaker 1:So we're getting together. Well, it's, you know the whole look up.
Speaker 1:We have things lined up for this year. We are putting together, we're going back to like a rollout, like we're doing a worker. Before we got away from that was just putting stuff out and but we really sat down, got our rollout together, definitely starting at the top of the year, just building traction with some of the live footage we shot with the team to our we shot. He edited some things for us. We're going to have a shoot with him, things like that, just to get the ball rolling so that when we do drop our live instrumentation of our live recording like, we'll have that put out and then we have some music that we're probably going to drop to as well.
Speaker 4:So nice Expect to hear expect to hear and see a lot from us in 2020.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we got a lot of things growing.
Speaker 4:The setup is coming. Everything's going to drop. We released because, we set on a lot of stuff, so 2024 is coming out.
Speaker 1:The year released. Am I going to sit on stuff for more? Yeah, you mean?
Speaker 3:it.
Speaker 4:No, it's happening. Queen David is coming up.
Speaker 2:Queen David Look, man, before we get out of here. I always do gym class.
Speaker 1:Gym class. Gym class G E M.
Speaker 3:Gym class.
Speaker 1:Nice, I like that.
Speaker 2:So what? What gym can y'all leave? You can have one at peace. What gym can y'all leave to you know, the relationship worth more than money. Podcast Fans and people just in general, even if they're not a fan. What's something as a y'all want to leave?
Speaker 1:I will say this is the person that came online. I think if you always take the position of being a servant to someone, it will never come up void, that's all I got. We are the same person I'm trying to tell you Say it again.
Speaker 2:Say it again If you were.
Speaker 1:Go ahead. If you are, always take the position with someone that you're meeting old, new, whatever If you always take the position of being a servant to them, that will never come up void. So what I mean by that is like even with you too is if I'm always approaching our relationship as oh how can I help you? What is it that you need? You know what I'm saying being a servant to you in our relationship, that will always manifest into something bigger. Now, you might not necessarily see it with that person in that season, in that time, but it'll always carry over into something else.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:It just has to.
Speaker 2:I feel that. I definitely feel that it's a lot. It's a lot for people to not even acknowledge that.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Because I tell people all the time what you need from me. How can I help? Right and it. What. What Can?
Speaker 4:I take it out. No, I mean, it's the how can I help phrase and it just the show. New Amsterdam, the doctor that ran the hospital. That was his approach to everything. He's one line was always well, how can I help people coming to him with all types of situations they need, they need or they're just dressed out. I can't figure it out. His line was always how can I help, and it created such a positive atmosphere in the show. But just using that same phrase and just in life in general, how can I help the situation?
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's just the way to move forward and things just always going to be more beneficial to you to be helpful in a situation than to be a detriment in anything that you're doing. So if you're going in with the intention to be helpful, I think that's a big gem.
Speaker 2:I feel that I definitely agree with that. You got to. You have to have some type of humility to just you know, I mean, just be an open door. Yeah, you know me, miko, shout out to Miko. Miko always used to tell me is say something like hey man, this ain't never doorways and hallways.
Speaker 4:Huh, that's nice.
Speaker 2:I'm like what are you talking about? He like doorways and hallways, and I'm like he was sad all the time. I'm like, bro, what are you talking about? Yeah, I mean he like look, there's always doorways open and hallways that you can go into, but it's on you to. You know what I mean. Right, you know to pursue those doorways and hallways, but every doorway ain't gonna be a good doorway. But again, if you just opening up your doors and hallways to people, you know what I mean. A lot of good things that come from that. Yeah.
Speaker 2:So you know what I mean. Shout out to Miko. Miko, definitely that's how I ended up doing working with me. I ended up working with a la and Kerry Gordy, just from me, doorways and hallways, just building being open, and like he was, like he would have me. He was like, hey, man, what you doing tonight, what you doing right now? I'm like I'm chilling. He like, hey, meet me here. It'd be like a restaurant. He food Right. I ain't know what the hell I'm doing.
Speaker 3:I'm just pulling up Right.
Speaker 2:And he had just been sitting there drinking some old timers or whatever, right. And he was like, hey man, this is my man's tweezy, this isn't this and this isn't that. And then he was like yo, let's go have a seat over here and then we'll start talking. Hey man, I'm working on this business marquee thing. I'm working on this. I'm working on this. I'm like oh shit, Like you know what I mean, Like he's always called me. Yeah, like you call me and I, literally I don't even it was.
Speaker 2:It was somewhere in Maryland. I still to this day because it was funny, when I left that meeting with him, somebody like it was cops outside the establishment and somebody did something. I don't know what happened, but I just remember like he would always call and be offered me like to work with, like Tommy Davidson, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:That's a big deal. I mean you said it when you were like. It keeps you humble. Yeah. Being humble doesn't mean being taken advantage of. It doesn't mean you know getting played like. You know what I'm saying. I feel like sometimes people like well, I don't, I don't talk your shit. I'm not saying don't do that, but I mean like there has to be a balance. Yeah. You know what I mean. You got to have a spirit of humbleness about you, because if not, who wants to work with somebody that's not?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel that Always and always. How can I help?
Speaker 4:How can I help?
Speaker 2:I got anything else before we leave up out here.
Speaker 1:No, I'm thank you. Yeah, in honor.
Speaker 2:Appreciate y'all. Man, you know it's been a long time. I've been trying to get y'all here since episode one. But y'all teachers, you know what I mean. Yeah, I think you know you got. You got husband and wife things going on. They just they just all over the place. She just you know everything. She be everywhere. So you know what I mean. Next time I will have your requested things that your manager had requested for y'all, yeah. So yeah, like that man, we out of here. Relationships worth more than money podcast. We go.